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User Info: LethalAffinity

LethalAffinity
5 years ago#1
From the audio commentary from An Unexpected Journey Extended Edition:

"...you're gonna see more of it in the second and third movies, but i've kinda been using less prosthetic orcs and more digital orcs, and i'm really happy. I'm doing what I wished I could have done 12 years ago where we didn't really have the means or the technology to do it properly back then, but we do now. So I think our Orcs, certainly coming up in the next two films, are going to be pretty formidable and scary creatures compared to what we have done in the past."
- Peter Jackson


This makes me incredibly sad. Can you imagine if all the wonderful prosthetic make-up Orcs and goblins from LOTR were all CGI? It would have lost a certain magic and charm, especially if they were of the low standard as they are in The Hobbit movies...it's so disheartening to hear him say this, especially when his old films feature an almost pioneering amount of simply beautiful old-school practical monster effects and make-up.

Also, Lurtz is still 10x scarier than any orc in The Hobbit.

I fail to see how this:
http://i.imgur.com/ZDiZ5QY.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ImUN0RV.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/MMrI2tH.jpg

Is scarier than this:
http://i.imgur.com/zP3QBLZ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/PYxvEet.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/H0RaaQG.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/9qqdUvX.gif
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User Info: MrGamer07

MrGamer07
5 years ago#2
Ah, the George Lucas way of filmmaking.
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User Info: XSpidercideX

XSpidercideX
5 years ago#3
Good Prosthetics >>> modern CGI.

Until this changes, I blame it on laziness.

I'm sure the filming process is so much smoother/enjoyable without all those bothersome materials, makeup artists, and actors.
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User Info: JaiCSC

JaiCSC
5 years ago#4
That's dangerously near George Lucas' line of thinking.

That does make me sad.

I hate to keep picking on The CGI in The Hobbit films but it is just garish a lot of the times.
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The_Zora_King
5 years ago#5
Is this just what happens when film makers become older? They get lazier? Lucas and Jackson pioneered great special effects in their trilogies. Now, they're going down the same path.
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User Info: LaManoNeraII

LaManoNeraII
5 years ago#6
The Hobbit is shot in 48fps. Actors completely covered in foam latex would look horrible in that kind of fidelity

Conventional effects are not keeping up with digital effects in advancement. Even if the design of Azog is garbage (Azog actually originally was an actor in prothestics, CGI Azog is a last minute design), the actual CGI and motion capture of that character is nothing short of fantastic. Every single detail of Manu Bennett's (a terrific actor) movement is captured perfectly- much more so than he would be able to do in a rubber suit and pounds of makeup
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User Info: LethalAffinity

LethalAffinity
5 years ago#7
LaManoNeraII posted...
The Hobbit is shot in 48fps. Actors completely covered in foam latex would look horrible in that kind of fidelity

Conventional effects are not keeping up with digital effects in advancement. Even if the design of Azog is garbage (Azog actually originally was an actor in prothestics, CGI Azog is a last minute design), the actual CGI and motion capture of that character is nothing short of fantastic. Every single detail of Manu Bennett's (a terrific actor) movement is captured perfectly- much more so than he would be able to do in a rubber suit and pounds of makeup


And it's a creative decision I massively disagree with.

If Jackson were so bold, he could have shot The Hobbit on film instead of digital, AND he wouldn't have saturated every single scene with obvious green screens. If he so desperately wants to bridge the two trilogies (Which, it's clear he does. Every other scene has a reference to something in LOTR. Also, Legolas.), this would have been the wiser decision as LOTR was shot on film. It's not like the studios wouldn't allow him. They literally bend over for him. The Hobbit trilogy and the Star Wars prequels are what happens when directors are given too much wiggle room by studios and everyone who they surround themselves with is too scared to offer critical input.

I bet if Del Toro were directing, The Hobbit would have just been two parts and he would have actually had it work as a standalone series. Its aesthetic certainly would have been an even bigger departure from LOTR too.
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ClayGuida
5 years ago#8
Eh, I kind of understand I guess. The orcs in LOTR were more intense than scary, not that these are scary at all.
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User Info: LaManoNeraII

LaManoNeraII
5 years ago#9
LethalAffinity posted...
LaManoNeraII posted...
The Hobbit is shot in 48fps. Actors completely covered in foam latex would look horrible in that kind of fidelity

Conventional effects are not keeping up with digital effects in advancement. Even if the design of Azog is garbage (Azog actually originally was an actor in prothestics, CGI Azog is a last minute design), the actual CGI and motion capture of that character is nothing short of fantastic. Every single detail of Manu Bennett's (a terrific actor) movement is captured perfectly- much more so than he would be able to do in a rubber suit and pounds of makeup


And it's a creative decision I massively disagree with.

If Jackson were so bold, he could have shot The Hobbit on film instead of digital, AND he wouldn't have saturated every single scene with obvious green screens. If he so desperately wants to bridge the two trilogies (Which, it's clear he does. Every other scene has a reference to something in LOTR. Also, Legolas.), this would have been the wiser decision as LOTR was shot on film. It's not like the studios wouldn't allow him. They literally bend over for him. The Hobbit trilogy and the Star Wars prequels are what happens when directors are given too much wiggle room by studios and everyone who they surround themselves with is too scared to offer critical input.

I bet if Del Toro were directing, The Hobbit would have just been two parts and he would have actually had it work as a standalone series. Its aesthetic certainly would have been an even bigger departure from LOTR too.


I think the 48fps 3D is amazing. I'd rather this important advancement be made than the Hobbit have actors hunched over in rubber suits
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Chirotera
5 years ago#10
Is there no end to Lucasitis?
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