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User Info: JREnvoy

JREnvoy
7 years ago#1
He made him the Hand in his absence, but once he came back, he stripped him of everything, and made him an outcast? Why? He told him to strip Joffrey of everything and destroy him if it came to it, but then he destroys Tyrion right when he gets the title back?
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User Info: Zelos_Zensation

Zelos_Zensation
7 years ago#2
He's incredibly resentful of Tyrion's existence because his birth killed Tywin's wife. Also, having a dwarf for a son is very shameful. So Tywin hates Tyrion basically.
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User Info: Wstonefi

Wstonefi
7 years ago#3
Tywin always hated Tyrion. He never stopped hating him, even when he made him Hand.

He used him, that's all. He needed Tyrion to maintain order in King's Landing while he was absent, so he made him Hand. But now that Tywin is back, he doesn't need Tyrion anymore, so Tyrion gets cast aside.

User Info: ForeverShadowed

ForeverShadowed
7 years ago#4
Why is every character in GoT so hateable
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User Info: rockus

rockus
7 years ago#5
JREnvoy posted...
He made him the Hand in his absence, but once he came back, he stripped him of everything, and made him an outcast? Why? He told him to strip Joffrey of everything and destroy him if it came to it, but then he destroys Tyrion right when he gets the title back?


He made him hand because he knew he was probably the best person to be able to maintain the kingdom at the time. Just because he dislikes Tyrion doesn't mean he isn't smart enough to know of Tyrion's qualities. He just doesn't like his dwarf son. So when he returned to King's Landing Tyrion was of no use anymore.
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User Info: Pdaimaoh

Pdaimaoh
7 years ago#6
Forever Shadowed | Posted 6/4/2012 6:38:11 PM | message detail | quote
Why is every character in GoT so hateable

The two Wildling chicks seem pretty okay, open about sex and don't like being enslaved but totally friendly in general unless someone goes out of their way to be an enemy. Can't hate that so much. Bran the crippled kid doesn't seem like a jerk, either. Then there's Sam, how can ya hate Sam? also the guy that's been with Sam in the last few scenes that's always got the grumpy realist attitude about things...he's crusty but sensible.

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All he did was take away Tyrion's position as the Hand, that's not really stripping him of much since he was awesomesauce before being the Hand and nobody can take away his awesome when he was the Hand. Plus he's convalescing right now, it's not like he can do a whole lot. What if Tywin or Joffrey announced he was now the ambassador in charge of arranging marriages? He's not really in a position to go out and socialize with people yet.

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User Info: Exar Kun

Exar Kun
7 years ago#7
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You think those quarters he was given are anything but a sign of disrespect?
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User Info: Pdaimaoh

Pdaimaoh
7 years ago#8
Maybe that's the room for the ambassador in charge of arranged marriages. Is there anything stopping Tyrion from getting his own place on his own dime anyway? The throne was already some billions in debt to the Lannister family and even though they're in charge now that doesn't really absolve any debt problems the throne already has to get in such a bad shape.

Whatever, I don't want to argue that Tywin doesn't like him, Tyrion talks about it at least a couple times. God damn the thing he did to the first woman Tyrion loved...hard to believe a guy like that was so nice to his cupbearer slave kid. Maybe he just has a huge beef with trying to bring whores into the family. This is bad news for Shae though...

I was just saying Tywin didn't actually do a whole lot to spite Tyrion besides taking his role as the Hand which makes sense because Tyrion was only a placeholder for that position. He could totally have mellowed out in his old age.

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User Info: EvilNcr

EvilNcr
7 years ago#9
From: Pdaimaoh | #006
All he did was take away Tyrion's position as the Hand, that's not really stripping him of much

Nah, he did worse. If it was just that, it would be one thing. What Tywin did is give all credit to Cersei who did diddly squat at maintaining order. So basically, he knows Cersei is unable to control her son so he appoints Tyrion, even though he dislikes him to rein him in and maintain order.

Tyrion does his job very well, manages to keep the defense going long enough for Tywin and the Tyrells to arrive and save the day. He fought at the frontlines, even though the king cowardly hid himself. What does he get? Nothing. Tywin gets back his title as Hand, but Cersei is credited for all the good things Tyrion did and they dismantle a lot of what he did to maintain order. Tywin completely pissed all over Tyrion.
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User Info: ShyOx

ShyOx
7 years ago#10
imo Tywin was kind of pissed Cersei and Tyrion had basically been wasting time and resources duking it out with eachother and trying to get control. Cersei is basically unremovable with Joffrey in power, so he shelved Tyrion instead to satisfy Cersei and Joffrey, since now Tywin has to work with them, and I'm sure it didn't bother Tywin in the least to do it. In this regard he kind of goes against his own credo and such by dishonoring a Lannister, even the lowest of the Lannisters. Tywin is a genius, but the way he handles his children jeapordizes everything he has built.
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