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User Info: Squall28

Squall28
3 years ago#11
ServantofNoOne posted...
Judo takedowns are considerably more detailed than wrestling

That's not saying one is more effective than another but there's pretty objectively more emphasis on details in judo


Yeah Judo is a lot harder than wrestling technique-wise. I think he's just biased to the technicalities of wrestling because that's his background.
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User Info: WadeWilson15

WadeWilson15
3 years ago#12
what do you mean "is it useful?"

is it useful if you ever get in a fight? yes. it's much better than nothing
in grappling/striking tournaments? no

aikido is a self defense art. it teaches small joint manipulations, groin strikes, eye gouges, etc. i don't think those are legal in competition.

don't judge aikido from youtube clips. most of those are meant to display the technique. when you're in a class, yes the pace will be slow in the beginning. you need time to master even just one technique. but when you see black belts do randori, you will notice it's different from what you see online.

a good uke will not really cooperate. he will not commit to attacks so there are times when the nage will either shove him or step back and reset. and that ridiculous thing you see in videos, where multiple attackers would just stand and watch while a tech is being performed, and wait for it to be done before they attack? that doesn't happen in good schools. ukes will attack at the same time. a good skill you will develop in aikido is creating space. you will be taught to execute a hold/throw and position the attacker between you and other attackers
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User Info: ServantofNoOne

ServantofNoOne
3 years ago#13
Aikido as an art doesn't engage in actual live randori and aikido schools that do are an absolute rarity, as opposed to judo where I'd be very surprised to hear of even one school without it

There is still a total world of difference between an uke who is trying to provide realistic resistance, and actual resistance from an opponent who is trying to throw you as well
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User Info: Ryuga_Hazaki

Ryuga_Hazaki
3 years ago#14
Enrolling in Aikido class, instructor tells us three "I want all three of you to rush me at once and try to attack me". We all did, and got reck't

User Info: gna647

gna647
3 years ago#15
I think im sold on judo

what should I look for in a good judo gym?

i understand that you have to look at the instructor's certifications and stuff, but i have no clue whats legit and what's not.
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User Info: ServantofNoOne

ServantofNoOne
3 years ago#16
Any judo club should be fine. Judo is incredibly competition focused and that is the best quality control.

You'd really have to search for a illegitimate judo club

Also old school judo guys are mean as hell and would kill you
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User Info: WadeWilson15

WadeWilson15
3 years ago#17
ServantofNoOne posted...
Aikido as an art doesn't engage in actual live randori and aikido schools that do are an absolute rarity, as opposed to judo where I'd be very surprised to hear of even one school without it

There is still a total world of difference between an uke who is trying to provide realistic resistance, and actual resistance from an opponent who is trying to throw you as well


seems like you've never been to a good aikido school. maybe you shouldn't call it garbage until you learn more about it
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User Info: ServantofNoOne

ServantofNoOne
3 years ago#18
"Oh, you just haven't seen the REAL (martial art), you should go to a REAL dojo before you talk" is what everyone defending a TMA that has a sparring problem say, but no one can ever point to these illustrious REAL schools. Do I need to travel to the top of Mt. Fuji, or what?

There are at least 3 aikido schools here in Boston and none of them engage in real live randori. We have two judo clubs and god knows how many BJJ schools that do. I can think of one BJJ school that's probably not very legit, as its a karate place and I never see them at competitions, but even then I've seen them rolling live when I drive past.

Meanwhile we're just supposed to take aikido's word for it that real schools are out there, we just need to find a scroll buried in the base of a cherry tree to find it or something
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User Info: xanadoo

xanadoo
3 years ago#19
Aikido is a terrible "real life" fighting art. If you love it for its aesthetics and tradition, etc. its fine but it's not very useful for self defense.

User Info: CrimsonStrider

CrimsonStrider
3 years ago#20
There are two types of Aikido. Three if you count McDojos.

Aikido has different lineages and it's been a while since I cared but some are more fluid and beautiful (thus less practical) while others are more self defense based.

Aikijujtsu should in theory be much better than Aikido. It's rougher and aimed at hurting the attacker where.as Aikido is more of a pacifist art.

Aikido is fun but not practical at most dojos. They teach you to defend strikes at half speed coming from angles that people don't normally use in real life.
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