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User Info: silverbullet474

silverbullet474
2 months ago#221
Rhiethreal posted...
Item 1 and 2 are both opinions. Neither proves the other false because of the nature of opinions. Item 3, however, is an assertion of fact, but item 1's existence proves that assertion false.

I read that more as him stating that nothing objectively rates it a 3 on a made up scale other than your personal opinion...which is true. You can't really disprove an opinion, but you CAN disagree with it (especially if it's an unpopular opinion not many people share).

Rhiethreal posted...
If you want to argue with a dictionary, that's on you.

I'm arguing your misinterpretation more than anything. You can cite your personal reasoning all you want, it doesn't make the rating any less arbitrary. The scale and it's parameters are pulled out of thin air, and your 3 on that scale is based on your opinion alone.
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Rhiethreal
2 months ago#222
silverbullet474 posted...
I read that more as him stating that nothing objectively rates it a 3 on a made up scale other than your personal opinion...which is true.

So you read it as something complete disconnected from what he actually posted.

silverbullet474 posted...
I'm arguing your misinterpretation more than anything. You can cite your personal reasoning all you want, it doesn't make the rating any less arbitrary. The scale and it's parameters are pulled out of thin air, and your 3 on that scale is based on your opinion alone.

You're simply wrong. It like how in the classic 90, 80, 70, 60 grading system 59 was arbitrarily chosen as the point of failure. However, grades assigned based on this system are not arbitrary precisely because they follow the system. Similarly, my criteria for judgement may be arbitrary or not, but the end score is not so long as it adheres to the system.

Now let me post that definition for you again:

based on random choice or personal whim, rather than any reason or system

The point is an arbitrary assessment serves no point because if doesn't offer a point of reference. A standardized assessment is useful, even if the criteria were arbitrarily chosen to begin with because by standardizing the criteria, the assessments can offer a point of reference to one another even when they are grading something entirely on its own merits. (Don't worry, I fully expect this to go over your head as well. It just needed to be said.)
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silverbullet474
2 months ago#223
The difference being that scholastic grading is a standardized and widely accepted system based on set criteria, not just randomly assigned grading made up by a single person. A 59 is a fail point simply because it falls below the minimum accepted passing line. There's false equivalence between this and what you're talking about. You can call your randomly decided scale standardized all you want, but it's still something you just pulled out of thin air based on your opinion alone. To anyone that doesn't share your opinion--which again, is probably an overwhelmingly large group in comparison--it means absolutely nothing.
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Rhiethreal
2 months ago#224
silverbullet474 posted...
A 59 is a fail point simply because it falls below the minimum accepted passing line.

Yes, an arbitrarily chosen line that was later standardized, just like I said.
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silverbullet474
2 months ago#225
Rhiethreal posted...
silverbullet474 posted...
A 59 is a fail point simply because it falls below the minimum accepted passing line.

Yes, an arbitrarily chosen line that was later standardized, just like I said.

But again, your random 5 point scale system is just opinion based and not based on any concrete standard. If you really can't tell the difference between a widely used system standardized over decades of refining and review and some random personal rating system you made up...
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Rhiethreal
2 months ago#226
silverbullet474 posted...
But again, your random 5 point scale system is just opinion based and not based on any concrete standard.

Exactly the same as the ABCDF standard when it was first created. (You'll notice that is also a 5 point system.)
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silverbullet474
2 months ago#227
Not really, but OK.
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_Golbez_
2 months ago#228
Does anyone else just hop into threads with 20 or so pages just to see how much the conversation hast gone off-topic?
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Deaga
2 months ago#229
I do, but whatever silverbullet and Rhiethreal are talking about is really getting in the way.
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Rhiethreal
2 months ago#230
_Golbez_ posted...
Does anyone else just hop into threads with 20 or so pages just to see how much the conversation hast gone off-topic?

To be fair, the first post didn't set up much of a conversation anyway.
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