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User Info: LonelyGaruga

LonelyGaruga
10 months ago#311
Based on the MH4 opening, no. Gore Magala easily crushes Tigrex's neck with its wing arms (which appear to be extremely powerful, based on how it uses them in-game). Granted, it also caught it from above, but Tigrex's whole thing is about being the physically strongest monster of its tier, what with the whole "Absolute Power" thing, so for it to be seemingly outmatched in strength (getting knocked over like it does when landed on, then being helpless to resist Gore crushing it) speaks a lot about Gore's own physical strength. Normally, I would call it a Worf thing, but with Gore Magala being a juvenile Elder Dragon, that level of physical strength is to be expected, and killing Tigrex in the MH4 opening was unnecessary to establish it.

Ah wait, I said wing arms, but looking at it again, it was actually with its forelegs. That's, uh...kinda wow. I would expect that kind of thing from Nergigante, not Gore.

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Toxor
10 months ago#312
LonelyGaruga posted...
Toxor posted...
If you took away deviljho appetite plus hate he wouldn't have acidic saliva (why would he need it) and he wouldn't have dragon breath (savage Jho is even more hungry and he uses dragon breath more often)


This isn't actually how it works, because Deviljho's saliva would still be acidic, and its dragon breath is not fueled by hate or whatever chuunibyou idea you have going on there. Being hungry makes Deviljho drool, it does not change the quality of its saliva, only the quantity. And the dragon breath is not a result of Deviljho's hunger, but a rage mode exclusive attack where it uses a specialized organ that converts its "life energy" (whether this is supposed to be calories or something more esoteric is unclear) to dragon energy. It has nothing to do with hate, and Deviljho cannot perform that attack when fatigued. It is paradoxical to say that Deviljho, without its hunger, loses both of these characteristics, because it loses neither of them. The first is an innate quality of its saliva, the latter is something that it can't use when hungry (fatigued). Savage Deviljho can perform the dragon breath attack more often not because it's hungrier, but because by default it has all of the abilities and characteristics of an enraged Deviljho. It's like saying Rajang's rolling ball attack (another rage mode exclusive) is fueled by anger.

But let's just ignore that, because it actually demonstrates what a loser Bazelgeuse is, because Deviljho doesn't need these things to brutalize it, while Bazelgeuse does need its bombs to bail its ass. You can take away everything about Deviljho besides its size and strength and it would still demolish Bazelgeuse, because Bazelgeuse is a weak monster. Without its bombs, it would be a *4 tier monster. Bazelgeuse is not a competent flier like Rathalos or Legiana. It is not a competent ground fighter like Diablos. It's not competent at melee combat like Astalos, nor is it well protected from attacks like Gravios. Bazelgeuse has no size or strength advantage either. Bazelgeuse's non-shared attacks are things like the most telegraphed body press in the franchise where it sprawls all over, or its silly charge where it drags its face all over the ground while crawling on all fours, or the bombing run where it tries to go for a kamikaze at the end. All of these are variations of tackling/body blows, with some fiery attack to detonate its scales being the sole thing that Bazelgeuse has that's "unique", and fire breath is one of the most generic projectiles a monster could have.

Take away Rathalos' fire breath, and it would still destroy Anjanath all the same. Gore Magala murders Tigrex without Frenzy. Seregios rivals Rathalos through pure aerial mastery, as does Astalos. Bazelgeuse should be able to compete with Rajang and Deviljho without its bombs. But it can't. Monster abilities are not what define them. It's the combination of all the other things that they have. Bazelgeuse is slow, fragile, and possesses average size and strength. It is a textbook generic weak monster, completely defined by it being made of explodium, which somehow makes it a top level threat.

I never ment against other monsters I ment against the hunter it wouldn't be a fun fight because you take away what makes the monster unique
My favourite monster is Khezu......that is all
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