Ur-Dragon Generation 10

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User Info: YoruPoru

4 months ago#1
Important note - When calling GP or grace period, please include the keyword # grace, but remove the space so the # is up against grace, and it is all one string. Please do not use the keyword in this thread until it is grace period.

When you enter the Chamber of Lament, you will see an "accessing server" message, during which a copy of the online Ur dragon will be downloaded. Kill the 3 enemy pawns to summon the Ur dragon into the arena. The Ur dragon will come with hp (and weak spots status) representative of his global health, but at any time players may be greeted with an Ur dragon of varying hp. Do not be alarmed if you see an Ur dragon with hp different from what others are reporting - he is not healing himself. Look at the mean for its general health rather than individual hp values.

You will then battle him for 8 minutes, after which he will fly away and you will see another "accessing server" message, during which the damages you did will be uploaded to the server for consolidation into the global health. If you don't see the "accessing server" message at this time, the damage did not upload and you have likely exceeded the damage cap.

Over time, as players contribute their effort towards the common goal, the Ur dragon's global health will decline. Eventually, when the Ur dragon is killed by anyone, we go into grace period (GP). If you enter the Chamber of Lament during grace period, you will have a chance to land your own killing blow to gain good rewards - the 3 piece Abyssinal set, 1 mask, and 3-4 weapons. He will also dragonforge all weapons and armor equipped on the Arisen.

Health Notation
The numbers you see posted in this thread are health updates. To give an update, just count the number of purple dots remaining on Ur's health, and add a decimal approximation of the current health bar. So, two dots and half a bar would be a 2.5. Ur starts at ten dots and a full bar, which equates to 10.99 or 11.0.

http://i.imgur.com/TZaO5Ns.jpg (pic courtesy of wolfzblood77)

Important - always report what the health is at the beginning of a round, not what the health is at the end of a round.

General advice for getting a kill during GP

1. Use stacked periapts! Bring at minimum 32 Conqueror's and/or 32 Demon's Periapts - Conqueror's for strength, Demon's for magic. Use 4 (of each) at a time, and reapply when they wear off. Substitute Tagilus's Miracle and/or Salomet's Secret to buff your entire party.
2. Use Bloodlust*, and fight at night.
3. Use Autonomy* (see note below), and fight solo. This is not strictly necessary, but may be recommended for lower level players.
4. Use all other strength/magic boosting augments at your disposal - Clout, Vehemence, Acuity, Attunement, etc.
5. Bring enough health and stamina curatives to survive while dealing max DPS.
6. Ur Dragon is weak to holy damage. Exploit this weakness.
7. If you are a bow wielding vocation, bring a Maker's Finger. If you can get Ur down to only one heart, you can MF the last heart to kill him. Don't miss, you only get one shot.

During GP, Ur will have very little health (usually less than 0.05), and can have any number of active hearts, all of which will be glowing bright red. You will need to destroy all active hearts during a single round to get a kill (you can make multiple attempts). GP generally lasts around 45 minutes, but can vary somewhat.
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User Info: YoruPoru

4 months ago#2

Having a hard time killing Ur Dragon during Grace Period?
Conserving Consumables:
Save your game after entering the Chamber of Lament, then proceed to fight the Ur Dragon. When the 8-minute round is over, wait for the "accessing server" message, so the damage you dealt to Ur will be uploaded to the server. When it is done, use Godsbane snd “Retry”. This will allow you to fight Ur without using any consumables (MF is an exception).

Contribution rewards are dependent on your save file after you fight the Ur Dragon. If you did not save after fighting him, your contribution rewards (in case you miss killing him during Grace Period) will be forfeit. If you go a round with Ur, Godsbane, and then save, the damage you dealt should count towards contribution rewards.


Strategies in fighting the Ur Dragon using different Vocations:

Assassin/Strider/Ranger should attack with 100/1000 Kisses and 5/10 Fold with Blast Arrows. Sorcerer/Mage should use Holy Focused Bolt. MK mostly employs Great Cannon. Fighter/Warrior are not recommended due to lack of ranged attacks.




* Ur Dragon is healing??

Capcom confirmed that HE DOES NOT HEAL. There is a generally accepted theory that there are at least 4 versions/instances of the Ur Dragon, each with their own health points, thus the varying amounts of HP when you enter the Chamber of Lament. When one of these versions dies, all versions will sync and we will have Grace Period. There are instances when there is a big difference between the health points of different versions, so as to prevent the players from concentrating on the Ur with the lowest HP, the server will redistribute Ur's health.

* I'm not doing any damage!!

You are doing damage. It's just that Online Ur has a tremendous amount of HP and it takes a lot of players around the world to bring his HP down to zero, thus activating Grace Period. Also be sure to observe the blood that is coming out of Ur when you attack him. Purple Blood = damage, Brown Blood = no damage. Hit the glowing spots (hearts) in order to draw purple blood, and do damage. If you can't destroy his hearts during GP, then you aren't doing enough damage.

* How to discourage Ur from roosting:

Going to the West side of the chamber will help discourage Ur from roosting above the tower; while going onto the ledges on the East side of the chamber will often encourage roosting. Ur should be less likely to roost once all 4 wing hearts are destroyed.

* How to properly use the Maker's Finger:

The Maker's Finger is a special arrow that will instantly kill almost every enemy in the game. As for Ur, it will not kill him instantly, but it will destroy one local heart and deal massive damage to his local HP (not global HP). You can only damage him if you hit a glowing spot or an intact heart - if you hit him on a dead heart, this will not do any damage. Maker's Finger does not count against the damage cap for a round, and the game will auto-save after use. Tail & wing hearts should be prioritized pre-Grace as well as other hard-to-reach hearts.

You can only hold 1 Maker's Finger at a time. After you use it, Fournival will automatically restock another. Don't forge it - a forgery will never work.
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User Info: Alice_Rust

4 months ago#3
Number and position of non broken hearts during GP is same for everyone around the world or random?

User Info: callipygias

4 months ago#4
Can't speak for PS4/XB1 yet, but previously the number of live hearts was not always the same. I don't know how many different versions there are, but I know it's at least two.

There were two different times on 360 I killed an Ur Dragon generation on 4 accounts, and on one of the accounts the dragon was drastically different, as in it had only 1 live heart, while the others had several.
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User Info: Sera67

4 months ago#5
From what i saw over years, And thru Changes.

Ur grace starts off with semi set. hearts I guess. As grace moves on, it seems to alter a bit.

One of Older Graces actaully lost some health over time, As time run out, it got eaiser. and one version of grace, you could get a grace someone had not finished. And people would report 1-2 heart Ur's in GP with no health in few mins.

Graces hearts have been mostly last hearts to be popped. Mostly. Sometimes it just feels random.
But alot of times we left tail or wing for near end, end they show up on GP hearts..

If you see 1-2 heart during ps4 gp, and your near end of 45min GP, it could be what another user failed to kill, and that is still ine ffect all these years. (inless it had .2 health)
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User Info: ReiderAsmadi

4 months ago#6
I remember the earliest graces they had all the spots lit up but you could just shoot them once or twice and they went kaboom.

Actually making you work for them now.
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User Info: Sera67

4 months ago#7
I kinda miss Soft Grace, Or the version that was a MIX, 1-2 hearts would be abit hefty, And a rest just popped.

It made fighting it abit fun. You didnt really have to 1000's kisses them all, You could just spend 5mins using w/e skills you wanted on tough ones, and go kill. Granted, most of those graces had like 15-20mins timers.

Another face was really short graces, that started tough, and go really weak as grace ended.
You ether risked fighting tough one for kill, or pushed 10min mark trying get a weak one, and maybe missing out.

Honestly, I'm just kinda sick of climbing and spamming one button.
I'd lol for a GP Ur that could one shot any player. But had all hearts lit up, and took 3-4 hits. It puts everyone on same playing field. (outside skill levels)
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User Info: Alice_Rust

4 months ago#9
I tried to kill ur few days ago on PS3 with my twink (MK 160lvl in full BB tier staff with great canon skill) and it was generation 1700+... and it was crazy hard, i really was unable to do any sufficient damage as far as i could see.
This time I will use old good tactic with assasin+top BB daggers+1000kisses+gale harness+invisibility+liquid vim+periapts+maker finger. "No" to experiments with MK anymore)

User Info: Alice_Rust

4 months ago#10
By the way what is better:
- use daggers with 1000kisses, or Sword with Dire Gouge?
- And what is better holy pact + top BB weapons, or heavens_key/ascalon? Cuz wiki strategies seggest to use second option but my practice shows that it is always better to use BB weapons. Maybe this tactics were written before dark arisen.
- how much blast arrows i shoud take if there will be heart on wing? When i killed ur on ps3 there was only one heart on wing and i broke it via Maker Finger.
- Should i use maker finger in the beggining of fight ot in the end?
- Any point to use periapt for mag attack if i use Assasin and pure STR weapon?
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