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I_Abibde
1 week ago#31
*headscratch*

The two games share many of the same actors, and both have exceptional voice acting, IMO.

But yes, Ian Sinclair is top-tier as Berkut.
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BipBapBam
1 week ago#32
Daddy Bercute has the best VA in the series so SoV auto wins
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HackedDragonite
1 week ago#33
ManagarmrOP posted...
Wasn't it t*** McGee who made him into the boar prince?
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NovaWill
1 week ago#34
I_Abibde posted...
*headscratch*

The two games share many of the same actors, and both have exceptional voice acting, IMO.

But yes, Ian Sinclair is top-tier as Berkut.

Untrue and even if it was, it doesn't mean an actors performance is the same across different games and characters.

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StellaLunaris
1 week ago#35
NovaWill posted...
Untrue and even if it was, it doesn't mean an actors performance is the same across different games and characters.

Sometimes it comes down not to the VA's skill, but also the direction.

Like, Patrick Seitz is a goddamn legend, but I can't stand his Jeritza voice because he sounds like Snape with brain-damage.
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A_Field_Lover
1 week ago#36
ManagarmrOP posted...
Correct, it takes more than that, which Alm does.

His brand leads him to be taught by Mycen and in turn made him allowed to lead the deliverance through only a single showing.

And only under his leadership they start winning, suddenly they were able to take Zofia Castle, and even Rigel itself.

"Corrin is not beloved by everyone because Takumi hates him". The fact that you used Delthea whose main gimmick is that she's a brat is telling.

Gray says, as a kid no less, that Alm and Celica are different than them "in every way" (and later said Alm is a great leader of Deliverance the one that allows them to earn the impossible victories), Clive calls Alm a teacher when you save Delthea and he also admits that Alm is better than him. Tobin, who's is all about being competitive with his fellow villagers just straight up telling the guy himself he's better than him in every way is pretty big.

What? Nuibaba's Mirror is a random plot contrivance that was solved by Celica's McGuffin.
What trap? Nuibaba's? The one whom he caves her teeth in 6 minutes later after proclaiming "you've fallen for my trap"? Who calls Alm's for his recklessness? Clive only calls him out if Mathilda dies.
Alm feeling "phew that was quite a battle" after the event is NOT him struggling, evident when he crushes them with ease later.

Celica was merely the embodiment of Mila while Alm is already an embodiment of both Duma and Mila. She's also reduced to damsel because of her stupidity and before you go off, yes, i understand why she believes strongly in Mila, I've explained this million times before, but since you're so slow I'll do it again, people don't take issue with her faith, it's how she believed Jedah

He only earns his position by being the chosen one. His proficiency as a fighter and leader? It's apparently all Mycen. Why Mycen even trains him in the first place? It's because he's a chosen one.

It's f***ing Naruto all over again.
His brand and inheritance doesn't make a gary stu, in medieval times your blood and inheritance matters. Still not gary stu, that's just pathetic whining to claim otherwise.

And it's canonically stated because of others being apart of his strength. Alm helps a lot but it's not just him and him alone. He's just a major help and like what Clive said: him being leader raised morale for the group. There were lots more soldiers than in Rise of the Deliverance btw. The army expanded throughout the story and recapturing Zofia gave Alm's group some actual ground.

So that's your excuse, weak. Especially when Takumi comes around and always loved Corrin all along. That never happens with Delthea and characters like Matilda aren't head over heels for Alm. Corrin doesn't work as a gary stu either imo, they're just more of an annoying bs character than a true gary stu/mary sue. Corrin would definitely fit the definition more than Alm though. At least other characters don't encourage Alm to never develop like what the royals do to Corrin.

That's not Gray being jealous like you claimed, Clive still isn't jealous and Clive has been stated to have anxiety from the leadership position: Alm being more competent isn't gary stu. Clive having things to learn from is good. Especially when Clive was in the mindset that your noble status determines worth and if you're worth saving, Alm challenges him on that directly and went and saved Delthea with his team. That's when Clive admits he's wrong and finds Alm a good teacher to learn from. Nothing wrong that, lords in FE all the time bring the best in a few characters or just objectively outrank some of the cast.

And that random plot device is still something that puts Alm in danger and needing to be saved. If he was perfect with no flaws he would've never been in that situation to begin with. Hell, in Gaiden Alm steam rolled through everything without any conflict nor struggle. Alm is made to struggle more and have his flaws showcased more. And again, Alm falling for the Celica vision still showcases character flaws, him besting her by might means literally nothing. He still has weaknesses and flaws showcased and struggled more than in Gaiden. The game's dialogue saying Alm and co struggle has more weight than your interpretation of the battle. Gameplay=/=Story btw. The entire war is treated in the story as a close battle than a one sided crushing. Your interpretation of events isn't canon.

A gary stu is a perfect character without flaws, Alm has flaws. Objectively contradicting gary stu status. Apart of the official definition is "insert" which Alm isn't, just Fire Emblem's usual power fantasy of lords being competent, strong and knowing tactics at a young age. Also, with Mycen and his position, Alm still had to WORK. He even proves his skill in Clive's words by taking back the outpost, which factually took work and effort. His inheritance doesn't downplay the fact that Alm was eagerly learning and trying to grow in his abilities. More than Celica herself, ANOTHER noble with chosen one inheritance.

Did you pay attention to the game? The themes showcase and literally state by Duma that Alm inherited the best of Duma: his strength and faith in humanity. Celica inherited Mila's kindness. Alm didn't inherent both Duma and Mila, care to show an official source that states otherwise? Your ass isn't a source.
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Tight-Knots
1 week ago#37
They are both amazing and we shouldn't put two queens against one another <3

S/o to Allegra Clark and Ben Diskin for voicing two entirely different characters in TH and making them sound so unique~ (Dorothea/Shamir and Caspar/Lorenz respectively)

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ManagarmrOP
1 week ago#38
A_Field_Lover posted...
His brand and inheritance doesn't make a gary stu, in medieval times your blood and inheritance matters. Still not gary stu, that's just pathetic whining to claim otherwise.
His brand allows him to fulfill his destiny. The nature of prophecy is that it never fails to deliver. And the process of this delivery has to be observed. By having the Brand, Alm rightfully becomes a crown prince, which sets Rudolf's plan in motion. Which made Mycen tutors him, which eventually allows him to be Deliverence leader. It's all because of the brand setting a chain of events. No other lords are chosen one.... And it shows how the plot bent to accommodate their greatness.

A_Field_Lover posted...
And it's canonically stated because of others being apart of his strength. Alm helps a lot but it's not just him and him alone. He's just a major help and like what Clive said: him being leader raised morale for the group. There were lots more soldiers than in Rise of the Deliverance btw. The army expanded throughout the story and recapturing Zofia gave Alm's group some actual ground.
I'm talking about the onscreen fights taking Zofia Castle and the wjole conquering Rigel itself so no, "what about offscreen soldiers" won't even play a damn part. And no, without Alm they were LOSING. It's not like when Alm joins tons of Zofians joined the group and those people won the war, no-no, no such mentions. It's just Alm being able to grasp victories considered impossible because those victories are handed to him unrealistically.

A_Field_Lover posted...
So that's your excuse, weak. Especially when Takumi comes around and always loved Corrin all along. That never happens with Delthea and characters like Matilda aren't head over heels for Alm. Corrin doesn't work as a gary stu either, they're just more of an annoying bs character than a true gary stu/mary sue.
Takumi always hated them until late in the respective games (never in CQ), no tsundere s***. And again with your low hanging fruit, obviously Mathilda doesn't drools over him, but she still joins the choir in singing him praises. And Corrin is treated as Gary Stu because the people/universe bends for him (cept maybe CQ)

A_Field_Lover posted...
That's not Gray being jealous like you claimed, Clive still isn't jealous and Clive has been stated to have anxiety from the leadership position: Alm being more competent isn't gary stu. Clive having things to learn from is good. Especially when Clive was in the mindset that your noble status determines worth and if you're worth saving, Alm challenges him on that directly and went and saved Delthea with his team. That's when Clive admits he's wrong and finds Alm a good teacher to learn from. Nothing wrong that, lords in FE all the time bring the best in a few characters or just objectively outrank some of the cast.
It doesn't necessarily need to be a jealousy for someone to be aware of their inferiority towards someone else. This proclaimed inferiority is the point of contention. Alm is the best in everything, no one in his party is better than him at anything, despite him just being a textbook learner with no experience. Marth still learns and consults from Jagen and Malledus. Sigurd is already mature enough to be believable that he doesn't need anyone to latch on but he still asks for Lewyn's opinion. Seliph has Shannan and Oifey, and even Julia is the one who is destined to defeat Julius. Roy has Merlinus/Marcus. Eliwood really is dependent on his two friends and Marcus (Oswin for Hector) and is not a great tactician since he asks Mark's to be his. Eirika has Seth, Innes, and L'arachel to help her journey, Ephraim is indeed played as a Gary Stu so he doesn't need someone to help him, but the entire point of Lyon's character is indeed Ephraim is such a Gary Stu that he can't compete so this is justified as it plays into the drama. And the list goes on, and that's not even accounting how they're not even their respective army's best fighter.

A_Field_Lover posted...
And that random plot device is still something that puts Alm in danger and needing to be saved. If he was perfect with no flaws he would've never been in that situation to begin with. Hell, in Gaiden Alm steam rolled through everything without any conflict nor struggle. Alm is made to struggle more and have his flaws showcased more. And again, Alm falling for the Celica vision still showcases character flaws, him besting her by might means literally nothing. He still has weaknesses and flaws showcased and struggled more than in Gaiden. The game's dialogue saying Alm and co struggle has more weight than your interpretation of the battle. Gameplay=/=Story btw. The entire war is treated in the story as a close battle than a one sided crushing. Your interpretation of events isn't canon.
That plot device was so cheap that to count it as a legitimate point is pathetic, especially since the story continues as if it never happened (i mean it was resolved in 3 minutes)

So what if he fails for an illusion? It's a common recklessness shared by other lords actually. He returns the favor tenfold by also freeing the area from Nuibaba.

Yes, I'm talking about the story not me demolishing the battlefield with Killer Bow. The story sails smoothly, with no indication of struggle against Rigel. It's in-canon the fact that Deliverence suddenly win their losing war when Alm became its leader.

A_Field_Lover posted...
A gary stu is a perfect character without flaws, Alm has flaws. Objectively contradicting gary stu status. Also, with Mycen and his position, Alm still had to WORK. He even proves his skill in Clive's words by taking back the outpost, which factually took work and effort. His inheritance doesn't downplay the fact that Alm was eagerly learning and trying to grow in his abilities. More than Celica herself, ANOTHER noble with chosen one inheritance.
That's a narrow and stupid view to deduct a Gary Stu. It was indeed how Mary Sue in that Star Trek fanfic was written. But overtime, the definition changes in accordance to times change and how several characters from several literatures skirts towards the original definition.

More or less, it's someone who is so good that the story (universe) bends for them. (This is from Overly Sarcastic Production, check it if you're actually want to hear it from actual writers/literary critics).

This is what Alm does, he's good at everything. This led other characters continously praise him (to the point a joint effort was attributed to him) those who despise him are so terrifyingly evil that their words are meaningless, he becomes the Deliverence leader only through a single showing, Celica is struck with idiocy so he can save her and look cool, and even the fact that Clive is humorously not around when Alm shows his royalty (such as lifting Royal Sword) so he can doubt Alm SO ALM CAN PROVE HIM WRONG could count too.

A_Field_Lover posted...
Did you pay attention to the game? Some wrong s***
It's called a brain, maybe you don't have that? Hm, that explains so much yet so little.

Alm does display Duma's strength (his positive aspect), no ruthlessness (his negative aspect). Yet he also shows love and compassion by literally forgiving Fernand and Berkut despite their atrocity (Mila's positive aspect), and no laziness/hedonism (Mila's negative aspect).
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A_Field_Lover
1 week ago#39
ManagarmrOP posted...
His brand allows him to fulfill his destiny. The nature of prophecy is that it never fails to deliver. And the process of this delivery has to be observed. By having the Brand, Alm rightfully becomes a crown prince, which sets Rudolf's plan in motion. Which made Mycen tutors him, which eventually allows him to be Deliverence leader. It's all because of the brand setting a chain of events. No other lords are chosen one.... And it shows how the plot bent to accommodate their greatness.

I'm talking about the onscreen fights taking Zofia Castle and the wjole conquering Rigel itself so no, "what about offscreen soldiers" won't even play a damn part. And no, without Alm they were LOSING. It's not like when Alm joins tons of Zofians joined the group and those people won the war, no-no, no such mentions. It's just Alm being able to grasp victories considered impossible because those victories are handed to him unrealistically.

Takumi always hated them until late in the respective games (never in CQ), no tsundere s***. And again with your low hanging fruit, obviously Mathilda doesn't drools over him, but she still joins the choir in singing him praises. And Corrin is treated as Gary Stu because the people/universe bends for him (cept maybe CQ)

It doesn't necessarily need to be a jealousy for someone to be aware of their inferiority towards someone else. This proclaimed inferiority is the point of contention. Alm is the best in everything, no one in his party is better than him at anything, despite him just being a textbook learner with no experience. Marth still learns and consults from Jagen and Malledus. Sigurd is already mature enough to be believable that he doesn't need anyone to latch on but he still asks for Lewyn's opinion. Seliph has Shannan and Oifey, and even Julia is the one who is destined to defeat Julius. Roy has Merlinus/Marcus. Eliwood really is dependent on his two friends and Marcus (Oswin for Hector) and is not a great tactician since he asks Mark's to be his. Eirika has Seth, Innes, and L'arachel to help her journey, Ephraim is indeed played as a Gary Stu so he doesn't need someone to help him, but the entire point of Lyon's character is indeed Ephraim is such a Gary Stu that he can't compete so this is justified as it plays into the drama. And the list goes on, and that's not even accounting how they're not even their respective army's best fighter.

That plot device was so cheap that to count it as a legitimate point is pathetic, especially since the story continues as if it never happened (i mean it was resolved in 3 minutes)

So what if he fails for an illusion? It's a common recklessness shared by other lords actually. He returns the favor tenfold by also freeing the area from Nuibaba.

Yes, I'm talking about the story not me demolishing the battlefield with Killer Bow. The story sails smoothly, with no indication of struggle against Rigel. It's in-canon the fact that Deliverence suddenly win their losing war when Alm became its leader.

That's a narrow and stupid view to deduct a Gary Stu. It was indeed how Mary Sue in that Star Trek fanfic was written. But overtime, the definition changes in accordance to times change and how several characters from several literatures skirts towards the original definition.

More or less, it's someone who is so good that the story (universe) bends for them. (This is from Overly Sarcastic Production, check it if you're actually want to hear it from actual writers/literary critics).

This is what Alm does, he's good at everything. This led other characters continously praise him (to the point a joint effort was attributed to him) those who despise him are so terrifyingly evil that their words are meaningless, he becomes the Deliverence leader only through a single showing, Celica is struck with idiocy so he can save her and look cool, and even the fact that Clive is humorously not around when Alm shows his royalty (such as lifting Royal Sword) so he can doubt Alm SO ALM CAN PROVE HIM WRONG could count too.

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And brands + themes of destiny have been a thing day 1 even in FE... Alm isn't a gary stu for having what every other lord has and your paragraph on that fails to convince otherwise. Also no other lord not having it is BULLs***, because weapons of destiny like Falchion and others are inherited through blood or gifted because of their status in the plot. Holy blood literally makes people gods of men in comparison to the common people without it. Chrom and Lucina have brands of destiny and don't really lose at all. The only thing that counts as a defeat is the fate of Emmeryn... Only to be immediately retconned in the Spotpass thing.

Tons of people join the Deliverance with Alm. The villagers, Silque and Luthier for one. That's not counting the captured soldiers they save. And the off screen soldiers do count, they're apart of the army and you can see them as NPCs and in cutscenes. They don't magically count now just because you say so. They're apart of the army and Alm just utilized his chess pieces correctly along with Clive and his lieutenants handling day to day affairs outside of the battlefield in Clive's words. It was a team effort.

Nope, if you played Fates it's confirmed through Conquest that Takumi loved Corrin all along and Revelation has Takumi suck Corrin's c*** like every other character. Praising Alm for his efforts and what he succeeded at isn't wrong but ok. If he was praised for his failures that would be another thing but not once was he praised for f***ing up like Corrin was.

That's what you claimed, every male wanting to be Alm and being jealous. Which obviously isn't true, every guy except Tobin are content with their own lives and place in the world. Tobin has character development of accepting his friends and his own life. It's what Gray and Tobin's A Support is about, Tobin making amends and not hating Gray for winning Clair over. This always happens in FE and lots of fantasy games in general, side characters being side characters and playing second fiddle to the main character.

Your personal opinion means nothing, it still gives Alm trouble and gave Berkut a few more scenes. Also, that mirror is the entire reason Berkut and Fernand weren't slain by Alm when they lost the fight, objectively proving that it was acknowledged (and it had build up by Nuibaba's scene with Berkut). To say it doesn't count is a pathetic shift of goalposts than a legit counterargument. And him falling for stuff showcases his flaws, mary sues are known for their LACK of flaws, Alm having flaws contradict gary stu status, you saying "so what" as a desperate counter says a lot. It's not a smooth ride, at best it's a ride that goes well with minor bumps and hard battles along the way.

"It's stupid because I don't agree with it". Keep making excuses, Alm isn't gary stu. You not liking him is fair enough, but a gary stu? Quit f***ing around. Alm has flaws, had to be saved by Celica two times now and struggles more than in Gaiden.

Ahhh so that's what it is. Your s***ty headcanon under the guise of a brain (of lack thereof in your case), that explains a lot. Alm has Duma's faith in humanity and strength. Celica has Mila's love and kindness for everyone, while Alm sees anyone who battles him as an enemy that he has to kill (confirmed in Tatiana scene). Celica was willing to not see Rudolf as a monster while Alm doubted it in their reunion scene. That was the entire "themes" in Gaiden and Echoes. Alm and Celica having the best of Duma and Mila.
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1 week ago#40
So many blank posts on a SoV topic. Gee, I wonder who that could be >_______________>
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