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User Info: HeavyLobster43

HeavyLobster43
4 months ago#31
DuranmanX4 posted...
HeavyLobster43 posted...
Unfortunately it really doesn't matter how well made a game is, if it's not Mario, Zelda, or GTA it's not getting a 97+ Metacritic.

http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation/tony-hawks-pro-skater-2
http://www.metacritic.com/game/dreamcast/soulcalibur
http://www.metacritic.com/game/nintendo-64/perfect-dark
http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-2/tony-hawks-pro-skater-3
http://www.metacritic.com/game/gamecube/metroid-prime
http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox/halo-combat-evolved
http://www.metacritic.com/game/dreamcast/nfl-2k1

Note that all of those games are really old. Also I generally think Odyssey/BOTW are really good games that deserve high scores. The really egregious offender in that respect is Skyward Sword, which got a higher Metacritic than Xenoblade despite not being particularly good.

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DuranmanX4
4 months ago#32
HeavyLobster43 posted...
Note that all of those games are really old.


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snoells
4 months ago#33
Xenoblade 1 Spoilers:

Mario = Dickson for his mustache obviously
Zelda = Lorithia because both are girls
Xenoblade 2 = Alvis for both being the Xenoblade universe

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Chaos_LightDark
4 months ago#34
9.7/100

User Info: Sentinel07

Sentinel07
4 months ago#35
goodlyoak posted...
HeavyLobster43 posted...
Unfortunately it really doesn't matter how well made a game is, if it's not Mario, Zelda, or GTA it's not getting a 97+ Metacritic.

Botw deserves it's high score at least. Mario on the other hand seems to just get high scores because it's Mario.

Having gotten to experience both at some point, Mario Odyssey deserves its score more for doing everything a Mario platformer should.

Breath of the Wild is good but feels like a glorified tech demo more than a game.

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BreezyZolos
4 months ago#36
Sentinel07 posted...
Having gotten to experience both at some point, Mario Odyssey deserves its score more for doing everything a Mario platformer should.

But that’s the problem. While I think both games are excellent and deserve high scores, they only ever get judged within the context of their series. SMO just needed to be an excellent mario game (good platforming, controls, and level design) in order to get a high score. Xenoblade 2 needs top tier combat, exploration, story, side quests, pacing, cutscene direction, acting, and music to even come close. Even if it does all of that, it will probably still be at least 5 points lower.

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ParagonCrossing
4 months ago#37
goodlyoak posted...
HeavyLobster43 posted...
Unfortunately it really doesn't matter how well made a game is, if it's not Mario, Zelda, or GTA it's not getting a 97+ Metacritic.

Botw deserves it's high score at least. Mario on the other hand seems to just get high scores because it's Mario.

ha, there's nothing wrong if you didn't like it but don't take away from how great of a game Odyssey is

maybe it "seems" it got high scores because it's name but in reality it got them because it deserved it
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DuranmanX4
4 months ago#38
Sentinel07 posted...
Having gotten to experience both at some point, Mario Odyssey deserves its score more for doing everything a Mario platformer should


so for being a by the numbers Mario game that hardly does anything unique

even the Cappy mechanic was just a gimmick that I swear to you won't be in the next Mario game, just like Fludd and the twist in Mario Galaxy

whereas Mario is still doing some basic things he was doing in Super Mario 64
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DuranmanX4
4 months ago#39
ParagonCrossing posted...
maybe it "seems" it got high scores because it's name but in reality it got them because it deserved it


Mario gets high scores for the same reason Sonic gets low scores, reputation

if Mario was completely new and didn't exist before 2017, Super Mario Odyssey would have gotten lower scores, simply because there is no Mario reputation

when a new 3D Mario platformer comes out, people expect a good game

that is why Super Mario 3D Land got such high scores, despite being a basic 3D Mario game

same applies to Zelda, just look at the reviews of Skyward Sword, Zelda has a good reputation, so all Zelda titles are basically guaranteed a good metascore

similarly, if you were to take Mario out of Mario Odyssey, and but Sonic in there instead, it would get lower reviews, because Sonic has a low reputation, people are more critical of the series, and every misstep would be exaggerated

I mean, the best Sonic 3D games don't have a score anywhere close to the worst Mario 3D game, because Mario has the reputation and Sonic doesn't
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bladedwraith
4 months ago#40
We will see.

I don'y care about the review scores, but I'll still see what it does overall. I'll play regardless. I wouldn't be shocked at a 90+... or below 80.

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