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User Info: SolidSnake6785

SolidSnake6785
3 days ago#11
How in the world does showing a Switch game and Roblox (unrelated to Ps4) outselling LoUII remotely relate?
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User Info: meltthebrain

meltthebrain
3 days ago#12
binaryvegeta posted...
to each their own. I wanted it to be over as soon I started playing as her.

lol so did i to begin with, but she grew on me

User Info: GigantLuffy

GigantLuffy
3 days ago#13
meltthebrain posted...
you're right, unfortunately people just wanted to play as the characters they grew to love from the first game, and would have preferred if Joel had a heroic death by saving Ellie again, which is just about as cliched as it gets imo,
Wrong. An anti-climatic death can be acfepted by the masses if it were done correctly. Let's look at Pulp Fiction.

  • Pulp Fiction is considered to be Tarantino's finest work.
  • Film has a rather charasmatic protagonist, Vincent, who decent at his job and is played by Travolta.
  • Film establishes a weakness of Vincent. He spends too much time in the bathroom.
  • Samuel L Jackson's character, Jules, quits because he wants to change. Vincent doesn't give a s*** and continues working as a killer.
  • Vincent gets killed because of his weakness. His death was anti-climatic, but it establishes the theme of "live by the gun, die by the gun" which works in contrast to the theme of Jules' subplot which is about how redemption is possible for any man.
Joel's death doesn't work because Abby doesn't exploit his weaknesses much like Butch did to Vincent. Joel is a survivor, and the first game establishes that as an aspect of Joel's character. It also sends a bad message. Joel helps Abby, and then she tortures him to death? I get that she's mad about her father, but it's been 5 years. She must have known that the FireFlies were going to kill Ellie, and 5 years is enough time for her to understand why Joel did what he did.

For a game whose themes are how revenge is bad, it's amazing how Abby had been wanting to kill Joel for 5 years. Yet during these 5 years she's been able to maintain a decent relationship with her crew. If revenge is supposed to destroy relationships like Ellie's and Dina's, then it's really ridiculous for Abby to maintain any relationship over the course of 5 years even though Ellie's desire for vengeance lasted a couple of months.

If Joel hadn't bothered to save Abby, then it would have justified Abby's murder of Joel. It would tie into a character trait of Joel's that was established in the first game, and it would confirm to Abby that Joel is the monster whom she initially believed him to be. It would lead her to believe that Joel didn't save Ellie because of some paternal instinct. Add some flashbacks of Abby pondering whether or not revenge against Joel is worth the effort a year or two after her father's death, and you'll have people questioning whether or not Abby would have killed Joel if he had saved her instead.

Then again, I doubt the people who think TLOU2 is an example of good story telling has ever watched a movie. Remember how this was supposed to be like Schindler's List?
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User Info: GigantLuffy

GigantLuffy
3 days ago#14
SolidSnake6785 posted...
How in the world does showing a Switch game and Roblox (unrelated to Ps4) outselling LoUII remotely relate?
Because it shows that this game has no legs and will not be a success on the level of TLOU1. If this were anything like TLOU1, then this would noy be happening. A guy made a post in a previous topic regarding how TLOU2 lacks the staying power needed for long term success. What were the response from defenders? One word posts like "LMAOOOO" or posts calling him wrong with zero arguments.

The fact that an overpriced Switch game and a Roblox card are beating 1.5 week old AAA game in the best sellers chart for what could be the largest vendor for physical games media in the largest gaming market is a joke. Animal Crossing and Spider-Man were able to land on the #1 spot and dominated the charts unlike TLOU2.

Animal Crossing: https://web.archive.org/web/20200317115754/https://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-video-games/zgbs/videogames

Spider-Man:
https://web.archive.org/web/20180913121453/https://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-video-games/zgbs/videogames
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Couldn't have said it better. The haters will be forgotten and will forget about this game when they target the next AAA hit release.
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User Info: meltthebrain

meltthebrain
3 days ago#16
@ Gigantluffy

the fact that you need to compare TLOU2 to a masterpiece in film making like Pulp Fiction to try and prove your point, only serves to show that at the very least TLOU2 is of a very high standard, in a medium (video games) where historically stories are generally of a fairly low standard, with some exceptions
Druckmann wanted people to passionately hate this game. Mission accomplished.
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User Info: WingZero0782

WingZero0782
3 days ago#18
binaryvegeta posted...
Joel was a f***ing idiot in this game.. The story was a complete mess.

Abby was a terrible new character. The game tried to pull a Metal Gear Solid 2 and it failed.

Nah, at least Raiden was likeable.
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kidesper
3 days ago#19
Yeah, people pretty much troll every playstation exclusive at this point.

they did it with spiderman with the QTE and puddles
they did it with GOW with the no jumping and calling it dad of war
they did it with lost legacy and uncharted 4 because they hate Nadine an wanted to play as sam
they did it with death stranding because they hate kojima for some reason etc.

thy are just happy they found an issue to latch onto that stuck with TLOU2. If they it wasn’t for joel their campaign wouldn’t have worked but theres a bunch of butthurt super Joel fans mixed in with the usual trolls that created a perfect storm for them.
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WingZero0782
3 days ago#20
kidesper posted...
Yeah, people pretty much troll every plantation exclusive at this point.

they did it with spiderman with the QTE and puddles
they did it with GOW with the no jumping and calling it dad of war
they did it with lost legacy and uncharted 4 because they hate Nadine an wanted to play as sam
they did it with death stranding because they hate kojima for some reason etc.

thy are just happy they found an issue to latch onto that stuck with TLOU2. If they it wasn’t for joel their campaign wouldn’t have worked but theres a bunch of butthurt super Joel fans mixed in with the usual trolls that created a perfect storm for them.

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