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User Info: CasualOblivion

CasualOblivion
3 days ago#1
A surprisingly subdued and balanced review, for a change given where it’s coming from:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGtKUaPhdfk
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User Info: tonberrymasta

tonberrymasta
3 days ago#2
It's a game with great asthetics, decent gameplay, and a mostly awful, politically charged and nonsensical story. The story brings the experience down a lot because TLOU was a game that unfortunately depended a lot on its story. It's not a 0/10 or a 10/10 as the extremists want you to believe, but I think a 6/10 is a fair score and that seems to be what most people are gravitating towards.

User Info: scaler24

scaler24
3 days ago#3
tonberrymasta posted...
and a mostly awful, politically charged and nonsensical story.
Pray tell how this story is politically charged in any way.

And no, "there are gays" doesn't count.
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User Info: VisceralVenom

VisceralVenom
3 days ago#4
He's been compromised, comrades....

"We are living in an artificially induced state of consciousness that resembles sleep"

User Info: Xent3ko

Xent3ko
3 days ago#5
tonberrymasta posted...
I think a 6/10 is a fair score and that seems to be what most people are gravitating towards.

How is a 6/10 a fair score for a piece of fiction you completely hated? It doesn't matter how pretty the graphics, animations, or sound is if the experience is not enjoyable.
If a character story driven game has garbage characters and story, how the hell can you give it a better than average score?

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VisceralVenom
3 days ago#6
Xent3ko posted...
How is a 6/10 a fair score for a piece of fiction you completely hated? It doesn't matter how pretty the graphics, animations, or sound is if the experience is not enjoyable.
If a character story driven game has garbage characters and story, how the hell can you give it a better than average score?

Someone else gave this game a 6 after completely obliterating it terms of hating almost every aspect, but then wound up giving it a 6, too. It was really bizarre.
"We are living in an artificially induced state of consciousness that resembles sleep"

User Info: Xent3ko

Xent3ko
3 days ago#7
VisceralVenom posted...
Someone else gave this game a 6 after completely obliterating it terms of hating almost every aspect, but then wound up giving it a 6, too. It was really bizarre.

Too many people have been suckered into thinking the IGN 6-10 scale is reasonable.

User Info: tonberrymasta

tonberrymasta
3 days ago#8
scaler24 posted...
Pray tell how this story is politically charged in any way.

And no, "there are gays" doesn't count.

It's a game where they purposefully kill off the white male hero in the prior title, while degrading or nullyfying any of his prior heroics, and then they replace him with new females leads (having lesbian and trans characters is just going one step further with it; it would be political even if all the females were straight and didn't look like men or whatever). See other recent examples of this like Terminator: Dark Fate, Star Wars: TLJ, or Ghostbusters 2016, etc. It's practically becoming a new genre in and of itself.

Xent3ko posted...
How is a 6/10 a fair score for a piece of fiction you completely hated? It doesn't matter how pretty the graphics, animations, or sound is if the experience is not enjoyable.
If a character story driven game has garbage characters and story, how the hell can you give it a better than average score?

If you aren't bothered by the story then I can imagine that the rest of the game is at least serviceable. For example, TLJ is viewed as a slap in the face to many long time fans of the franchise, but some people really like it because it had undeniably great visuals. It's just that once you involve politics in something people tend to fly off the deep end, and this is why I think it is a mistake to use games, movies, and comics to push political propaganda like this. It is hard to acknowledge that the game at least looks great when the underlying purpose of the product is to promote an agenda that you may or may not agree with.

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EpicJourney
3 days ago#9
tonberrymasta posted...
If you aren't bothered by the story then I can imagine that the rest of the game is at least serviceable. For example, TLJ is viewed as a slap in the face to many long time fans of the franchise, but some people really like it because it had undeniably great visuals. It's just that once you involve politics in something people tend to fly off the deep end, and this is why I think it is a mistake to use games, movies, and comics to push political propaganda like this. It is hard to acknowledge that the game at least looks great when the underlying purpose of the product is to promote an agenda that you may or may not agree with.
Dude, comic books have featured political propaganda since the inception.https://gamefaqs1.cbsistatic.com/user_image/5/9/5/AAdvQkAAAoLz.jpg
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User Info: tonberrymasta

tonberrymasta
3 days ago#10
EpicJourney posted...
Dude, comic books have featured political propaganda since the inception

Your point is taken, you can also look at how Disney and Looney Tunes had Daffy Duck and Bugs Bunny blowing up Nazis and the Japanese during the war. I guess there is a line where political issues become so overtly obvious that it becomes labelled as "propaganda" as opposed to a usual work of fiction which may reflect the thoughts and opinions (political or whatever) of the writers in typically much more subtle ways.

It is this lack of subtlety in TLOU2 and these other movies I mentioned that makes it seem more like propaganda than say a typical work of fiction. The game is clearly aimed at promoting the political interests of the rich elite behind it, and it is not aimed at the interests of the audience (who, regardless of their political beliefs, simply want to play a game that they will enjoy).
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