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User Info: dlf

10 years ago#1
Frequently Asked Questions

Why create a Thread?
- Nintendo does not give you this information outright, or at a singular source. You either have to check each game manually after downloading them or by proxy downloading them, then canceling before you purchase them on the Shop Channel. This is inconvenient. This thread remedies that convenience.

* - The buffer zone number is included since first time donwloaders for each console see it. Otherwise, use the Channel number for reference.

How many blocks equal a Megabyte?
- 8 blocks equal 1 Megabyte

How much is a block?
- 1 block equals 1 Megabit (128 kilobytes)

Should I contribute?
- If the game has an incorrect amount of blocks, please let me know, either through this topic, forum, or an e-mail.

How do I find these glorious numbers of awesomeness?
Start on wii menu>>"wii" icon (bottom left)>>data management (or something like that)>>then in this phase it depends what you're looking for, save data=left, channel data=right.

What will each post include?
- Original Post: Frequently Asked Questions & Introduction
- 2nd Post: (S)NES & N64 titles
- 4th Post: Neo-Geo Titles
- 5th Post: TurboGrafx+TurbografxCD titles
- 6th Post: Sega Master System titles
- 7th Post: Sega Genesis titles
- 8th Post: Wii Ware titles
- 9th Post Wii Channels

---- I will try to say as true to the above, but I may have to make multiple posts for the same system.

Are all of these numbers considered accurate?
No. Most of them are, however. Here is a list of games that are considered questionable on this list:

What are Save blocks, and what is their purpose?
Save blocks have 2 distinct purposes. One or both of them can be used for a game.
- Holds save files for games
- Creates a save state to allow quick access to where you last left a game

Save blocks have recently come up for debate about their usefulness. If they're important, what do they do, how do they work, etc. An interesting note about save blocks is that, while you can delete them, they take up NO SPACE on your Wii's Memory. At least the part in which you can see a number for. For example, Super Mario 64 has 90 blocks on a channel and 1 save block. Deleting the channel will erase the game's save data. However, it will not affect your system's overall block number. Even deleting the channel and the save block will only increase your storage capacity by 90, and not 91. Therefore, we can conclude that Save blocks for Virtual Console games are stored in the hidden area of the Wii's memory. You can delete it, but it will not affect your storage capacity.

We have been led to believe that all games and channels use Save states. With the introduction of Neo Geo titles, we know now this is not true. All of these titles currently do not employ save blocks. ---- This originally was from a topic of this exact topic on Nsiders 2, I credit them for the above text.

These numbers are taken directly from the Shop. They may or may not be the actual size of the game, but you must have the amount of listed space available on your system or SD card to download them. The Shop numbers also don’t take save data or DLC into account.

Games released prior to 8/27/07 are listed on the Shop roughly 72 blocks over their actual size. I'll list both the Shop size and approximate actual size for those. --- sfog in the topic of What are the most memory-hungry games?

Please do NOT post yet.

User Info: dlf

10 years ago#2
NES: (saves are 1 block, except SMB: Lost Levels, which is 4)
A Boy and His Blob: Trouble on Blobolonia (14)
Adventure Island (24)
Adventures of Lolo (96) (actual size:~24)
Adventures of Lolo 2 (26)
Balloon Fight (92) (actual size:~20)
Baseball (92) (actual size:~20)
Bases Loaded (28)
Bio Miracle Bokutte Upa (21)
Blades of Steel (25)
Blaster Master (16)
Bubble Bobble (25)
Castlevania (94) (actual size:~22)
Castlevania II: Simon's Quest (28)
Castlevania III: Dracula's Curse (16)
City Connection (22)
Clu Clu Land (13)
Crash 'N The Boys: Street Challenge (16)
Dig Dug (19)
Donkey Kong (91) (actual size:~19)
Donkey Kong 3 (14)
Donkey Kong Jr. (91) (actual size:~19)
Donkey Kong Jr. Math (92) (actual size:~20)
Double Dragon (22)
Double Dribble (24)
Elevator Action (91) (actual size:~19)
Excitebike (92) (actual size:~20)
Final Fantasy (21)
Galaga (91) (actual size:~19)
Ghosts 'n Goblins (24)
Gradius (92) (actual size:~20)
Ice Climber (91) (actual size:~19)
Ice Hockey (93) (actual size:~21)
Kid Icarus (93) (actual size:~21)
King's Knight (22)
Kirby's Adventure (99) (actual size:28)
Life Force (14)
Lode Runner (93) (actual size:~21)
Lunar Pool (23)
Mach Rider (93) (actual size:~21)
Mario Bros. (91) (actual size:~19)
Mega Man (15)
Mega Man 2 (17)
Mega Man 3 (17)
Metroid (95) (actual size:~23)
Mighty Bomb Jack (94) (actual size:~22)
Milon's Secret Castle (95) (actual size:~23)
NES Open Tournament Golf (98) (actual size:26)
NES Play Action Football (26)
Ninja Gaiden (95) (actual size:~23)
Ninja Gaiden II: The Dark Sword of Chaos (22)
Ninja Gaiden III: The Ancient Ship of Doom (21)
Ninja JaJaMaru-kun (25)
Operation Wolf (21)
Pac-Man (92) (actual size:~20)
Pinball (91) (actual size:~19)
Punch-Out!! (94) (actual size:~22)
Renegade (21)
River City Ransom (22)
Sky Kid (19)
Soccer (92) (actual size:~20)
Solomon's Key (93) (actual size:~21)
Spelunker (18)
Star Soldier (91) (actual size:~19)
StarTropics (27)
Super C (25)
Super Dodge Ball (15)
Super Mario Bros. (92) (actual size:~20)
Super Mario Bros. 2 (95) (actual size:~23)
Super Mario Bros. 3 (27)
Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels (25)
Tecmo Bowl (94) (actual size:~22)
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (96) (actual size:~24)
Tennis (92) (actual size:~20)
The Legend of Kage (92) (actual size:~20)
The Legend of Zelda (94) (actual size:~22)
Urban Champion (92) (actual size:~20)
Volleyball (24)
Wario's Woods (99) (actual size:~27)
Wrecking Crew (24)
Xevious (92) (actual size:~20)
Yoshi (94) (actual size:~22)
Yoshi's Cookie (21)
Zanac (26)
Zelda II: The Adventure of Link (96) (actual size:~24)
Zoda's Revenge: StarTropics II (17)

User Info: dlf

10 years ago#3
SNES: (saves are 4 blocks)
ActRaiser (116) (actual size:44)
Axelay (34)
Breath of Fire II (78)
Contra III: The Alien Wars (114) (actual size:~42)
Cybernator (32)
DoReMi Fantasy: Milon's DokiDoki Adventure (45)
Donkey Kong Country (130) (actual size:~58)
Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest (168) (actual size:~96)
Donkey Kong Country 3: Dixie Kong's Double Trouble! (63)
F-Zero (99) (actual size:~27)
Final Fight (121) (actual size:~49)
Final Fight 2 (23)
Genghis Khan II: Clan of the Gray Wolf (25)
Gradius III (107) (actual size:35)
Harvest Moon (46)
Indiana Jones' Greatest Adventures (31)
Kirby's Avalanche (107) (actual size:~35)
Kirby's Dream Course (113) (actual size:42)
Kirby's Dream Land 3 (48)
Metal Marines (41)
Nobunaga's Ambition (19)
Ogre Battle: The March of the Black Queen (33)
Pac-Attack (29)
Pilotwings (19)
R-Type III: The Third Lightning (129) (actual size:~57)
Romance of the Three Kingdoms IV: Wall of Fire (148) (actual size:~76)
Secret of Mana (33)
SimCity (105) (actual size:~33)
Space Invaders: The Original Game (19)
Street Fighter II Turbo: Hyper Fighting (121) (actual size:~49)
Street Fighter II: The World Warrior (130) (actual size:~58)
Street Fighter Alpha 2 (72)
Super Castlevania IV (114) (actual size:~42)
Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts (112) (actual size:~40)
Super Mario Kart (20)
Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars (60)
Super Mario World (101) (actual size:~29)
Super Metroid (136) (actual size:64)
Super Punch-Out!! (34)
Super R-Type (30)
Super Star Wars (24)
Super Star Wars: Return of the Jedi (31)
Super Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back (28)
Super Street Fighter II: The New Challengers (68)
Super Turrican (30)
Super Turrican 2 (41)
The Combatribes (23)
The Legend of the Mystical Ninja (113) (actual size:~41)
The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past (113) (actual size:~41)
Uncharted Waters: New Horizons (30)
Vegas Stakes (33)
Zombies Ate My Neighbors (20)

N64: (saves are 1 or 2 blocks)
1080° Snowboarding (157)
Cruis'n USA (73)
F-Zero X (228) (actual size:156)
Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards (153)
Mario Golf (199)
Mario Kart 64 (194) (actual size:~122)
Paper Mario (321) (actual size:249)
Pokémon Puzzle League (264)
Pokémon Snap (159)
Sin & Punishment (287)
Star Fox 64 (206) (actual size:~134)
Super Mario 64 (162) (actual size:~90)
Super Smash Bros. (123)
The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask (250)
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (358) (actual size:~286)
Wave Race 64 (168) (actual size:~96)
Yoshi's Story (156)

Neo-Geo: (saves are 0 or 1 block)
Art of Fighting (137)
Art of Fighting 2 (207)
Baseball Stars 2 (88)
Blue's Journey (79)
Burning Fight (86)
Fatal Fury (85)
Fatal Fury 2 (136)
King of the Monsters (86)
Magician Lord (71)
Metal Slug (240)
Metal Slug 2 (162)
Neo Turf Masters (175)
Ninja Combat (74)
Ninja Commando (86)
Samurai Shodown (147)
Samurai Shodown II (232)
The King of Fighters '94 (227)
Top Hunter: Roddy & Cathy (141)
World Heroes (111)

User Info: dlf

10 years ago#4
TG16/TGCD: (saves are 4 blocks for TG16, 5 for TGCD)
Air Zonk (98) (actual size:26)
Alien Crush (99) (actual size:27)
Battle Lode Runner (99) (actual size:~27)
Blazing Lazers (97) (actual size:25)
Bloody Wolf (97) (actual size:~25)
Bomberman '93 (101) (actual size:~29)
Bomberman ’94 (26)
Bonk III: Bonk's Big Adventure (100) (actual size:~28)
Bonk's Adventure (97) (actual size:~25)
Bonk's Revenge (99) (actual size:~27)
Bravoman (99) (actual size:~27)
Break In (22)
Chase H.Q. (22)
Chew Man Fu (99) (actual size:~27)
China Warrior (94) (actual size:~22)
Cho Aniki (CD) (147)
Cratermaze (97) (actual size:26)
Dead Moon (98) (actual size:~26)
Detana! Twinbee (20)
Devil's Crush (97) (actual size:25)
Digital Champ: Battle Boxing (22)
Double Dungeons (97) (actual size:~25)
Dragon Spirit (96) (actual size:~24)
Dragon's Curse (98) (actual size:26)
Drop Off (94) (actual size:~22)
Dungeon Explorer (100) (actual size:~28)
Fighting Street (CD) (201)
Final Soldier (23)
Galaga '90 (94) (actual size:~22)
Gate of Thunder (CD) (220)
Gradius II: Gofer no Yabou (CD) (221)
J.J. & Jeff (97) (actual size:~25)
Legend of Hero Tonma (25)
Lords of Thunder (CD) (214)
Military Madness (98) (actual size:~26)
Monster Lair (CD) (182)
Moto Roader (98) (actual size:~26)
Neutopia (97) (actual size:26)
Neutopia II (28)
New Adventure Island (99) (actual size:~27)
Ninja Spirit (98) (actual size:~26)
Ordyne (98) (actual size:~26)
Power Golf (25)
Psychosis (23)
R-Type (99) (actual size:~27)
Riot Zone (CD) (166)
Samurai Ghost (27)
Shockman (98) (actual size:~26)
Silent Debuggers (98) (actual size:~26)
SimEarth: The Living Planet (CD) (118)
Soldier Blade (99) (actual size:27)
Splatterhouse (97) (actual size:~25)
Star Parodier (CD) (212)
Street Fighter II: Champion Edition (32)
Super Air Zonk: Rockabilly-Paradise (CD) (175)
Super Star Soldier (99) (actual size:~27)
The Dynastic Hero (CD) (250)
Victory Run (96) (actual size:~24)
Vigilante (96) (actual size:~24)
World Class Baseball (24)
World Sports Competition (105) (actual size:~33)
Ys: Book I & II (CD) (273)

Master System: (saves are 2 or 3 blocks)
Alex Kidd: The Lost Stars (21)
Alex Kidd in Miracle World (21)
Enduro Racer (17)
Fantasy Zone (20)
Fantasy Zone II: The Tears of Opa-Opa (22)
Phantasy Star (26)
R-Type (23)
Secret Command (22)
Sonic Chaos (19)
Sonic The Hedgehog (20)
Sonic The Hedgehog 2 (19)
Space Harrier (19)
Wonder Boy (26)
Wonder Boy III: The Dragon's Trap (25)
Wonder Boy in Monster Land (25)

Commodore 64: (saves are ? blocks)
Boulder Dash (37)
California Games (44)
Cybernoid (36)
International Karate (36)
Last Ninja 2 (39)
Pitstop II (37)
Summer Games II (45)
The Last Ninja (40)
Tower Toppler (36)

User Info: dlf

10 years ago#5
Arcade: (saves vary depending on the game)
Altered Beast (38)
Gaplus (32)
Golden Axe (42)
Mappy (29)
Ninja Gaiden (32)
Rygar (49)
Shinobi (32)
Solomon's Key (49)
Space Harrier (35)
Star Force (17)
Tecmo Bowl (22)
The Tower of Druaga (31)

WiiWare: (saves vary depending on the game)
3-2-1, Rattle Battle! (196)
5 Spots Party (208)
Adventure Island: The Beginning (273)
Aha! I got it! Escape Game (94)
Alien Crush Returns (289)
Ant Nation (209)
Arkanoid Plus! (252)
Art Style: Cubello (47)
Art Style: Orbient (126)
Art Style: Rotohex (107)
Battle Poker (107)
Big Kahuna Party (122)
Bit.Trip Beat (312, or 315 after its update, Demo: 165)
Bit.Trip Core (274)
Bit.Trip Void (287)
Bit Boy!! (90)
Block Breaker Deluxe (285)
Boingz (169)
Bomberman Blast (227)
Bonsai Barber (128)
Brain Challenge (290)
Bruiser & Scratch (318)
Bubble Bobble Plus! (269)
Bust-a-Move Plus! (263)
Carnival King (313)
Castlevania The Adventure Rebirth (263)
Christmas Clix (261)
Cocoto Fishing Master (307)
Cocoto Platform Jumper (307)
ColorZ (232)
Contra Rebirth (274)
Copter Crisis (292)
Critter Round-Up (235)
Crystal Defenders R1 (257)
Crystal Defenders R2 (258)
Cue Sports: Pool Revolution (179)
Defend Your Castle (121)
Diatomic (106)
Dr. Mario Online RX (93)
Dragon Master Spell Caster (253)
Driift Mania (230)
Drill Sergeant Mindstrong (117)
Eat! Fat! Fight! (311)
Eco Shooter: Plant 530 (114)
Eduardo the Samurai Toaster (306)
Equilibrio (122)
Evasive Space (283)
Excitebike: World Rally (201)
Family & Friends Party (181)
Family Card Games (124)
Family Glide Hockey (231)
Family Mini Golf (273)
Family Pirate Party (182)
Family Slot Car Racing (314)
Family Table Tennis (274)
Family Tennis (164)
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: My Life as a Darklord (316, Demo: 269)
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: My Life as a King (287)
Final Fantasy IV: The After Years (117, plus 42 for all DLC)
Fish'em All! (129)
Flowerworks (127)
Frogger Returns (203)
Fun! Fun! Minigolf (302)
Ghost Mansion Party (308)
Gradius Rebirth (174)
Gravitronix (123)
Groovin' Blocks (316)
Gyrostarr (290)
Happy Holidays: Christmas (60)
Harvest Moon: My Little Shop (223)
HB Arcade Cards (127)
Helix (309)
Heracles Chariot Racing (305)
High Voltage Hot Rod Show (318)
Hockey Allstar Shootout (117)
Home Sweet Home (124)
Incoming! (62)
Jungle Speed (281)
Learning with the PooYoos: Episode 1 (253)
Let's Catch (115)
Lit (232)
Little Tournament Over Yonder (114)
Lonpos (125)
LostWinds (259)
LostWinds: Winter of the Melodias (317)
Maboshi's Arcade (109)
MadStone (89)
Magnetica Twist (85)
Magnetis (115)
Major League Eating: The Game (257)
Mart Racer (195)
Mega Man 9 (66)
Midnight Bowling (300)
Midnight Pool (312)
Moki Moki (115)
Mr. Driller W (126)
My Aquarium (227)
My Dolphin (289)
My Pokémon Ranch (123)
My Zoo (254)
Neves Plus (62)
Niki: Rock n' Ball (129)
NyxQuest: Kindred Spirits (299, Demo: 224)
Onslaught (309)
Overturn (213)
Pallurikio (108)
Party Fun Pirate (127)
Penguins & Friends: Hey! That's My Fish! (186)
PictureBook Games: Pop-Up Pursuit (115)
Pirates: The Key of Dreams (125)
Pit Crew Panic! (290)
Planet Pachinko (188)
Plattchen: Twist n’ Paint (287)
Pokemon Rumble (186, Demo: 187)
Pong Toss: Frat Party Games (122)
Pop (110)
Pop'Em, Drop'Em Same Game (45)
Potpourrii (128)
Protothea (261)
Rabbids Lab (268)
Rainbow Islands: Towering Adventure! (259)
Reel Fishing Challenge (264)
Rock N' Roll Climber (125)

--- Rest are coming, please do not post yet.

User Info: dlf

10 years ago#6
Wii ware cont.
Rubik's Puzzle Galaxy: Rush (112)
Sandy Beach (296)
Sexy Poker (297)
Shootanto: Evolutionary Mayhem (293)
Silver Star Chess (225)
Silver Star Reversi (245)
Snowboard Riot (271)
Space Invaders Get Even (307, plus 117 for Mission Pack A, 123 for B, and 128 for C)
Spaceball: Revolution (315)
SPOGS Racing (264)
Star Soldier R (145)
Stop Stress: A Day of Fury (316)
Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People Episode 1: Homestar Ruiner (319)
Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People Episode 2: Strong Badia the Free (321)
Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People Episode 3: Baddest of the Bands (321)
Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People Episode 4: Dangeresque 3 (321)
Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People Episode 5: 8-Bit is Enough (316)
Stunt Cars (258)
Sudoku Challenge! (103)
Swords & Soldiers (140)
Tales of Monkey Island Chapter 1: Launch of the Screaming Narwhal (320)
Tales of Monkey Island Chapter 2: The Siege of Spinner City (315)
Tales of Monkey Island Chapter 3: Lair of the Leviathan (319)
Tales of Monkey Island Chapter 4: The Trial and Execution of Guybrush Threepwood (319)
Target Toss Pro: Bags (303)
Tetris Party (244)
Texas Hold'em Poker (308)
Texas Hold'em Tournament (114)
The Incredible Maze (127)
The Magic Obelisk (220)
The Three Musketeers: One for All! (310)
Tiki Towers (284)
Toki Tori (290)
TV Show King (290)
TV Show King 2 (307)
VIP Casino Blackjack (207)
Water Warfare (245)
Wild West Guns (300)
Word Searcher (59)
World of Goo (321, Demo: 165)
You, Me, and the Cubes (125)
Yummy Yummy Cooking Jam (122)

Wii Channels:
Check Mii Out Channel (91) (save:1)
Everybody Votes Channel (54) (save:2)
Internet Channel (233, or 203 after 9/1/09 update) (save: 37)
Metroid Prime 3 Preview Channel (not available unless obtained prior to 12/31/07) (70)
Nintendo Channel (122, or 103 after 9/14/09 update) (save:126, or 11 after update)
Photo Channel 1.0-1.1 upgrade (4)

Others (only available via their respective software or download codes):
Doc Louis's Punch-Out!! (143)
Mario Kart Wii Channel (79)
Rabbids Go Home Channel (???)
Wii Fit Channel (106)
Wii Fit Plus Channel (109?)
Wii Speak Channel (51) (prior to any updates)

User Info: Edge578

10 years ago#7
I'm confused. I just thought save blocks were the "currency" Nintendo used for storing data, similar to GB and MB.
Isn't it good, Norwegian Wood?

User Info: dlf

10 years ago#8
Genesis: (saves are 2 or 3 blocks)
Alex Kidd in the Enchanted Castle (97) (actual size:~25)
Alien Soldier (33)
Alien Storm (25)
Altered Beast (95) (actual size:~23)
Beyond Oasis (110) (actual size:~38)
Bio-Hazard Battle (99) (actual size:~27)
Bonanza Bros. (95) (actual size:~23)
Boogerman: A Pick and Flick Adventure (31)
Clay Fighter (30)
Columns (95) (actual size:~23)
Columns III: Revenge of Columns (29)
Comix Zone (109) (actual size:~37)
Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine (98) (actual size:~26)
Dynamite Headdy (109) (actual size:37)
Earthworm Jim (33)
Earthworm Jim 2 (36)
Ecco Jr. (29)
Ecco the Dolphin (98) (actual size:~26)
Ecco: The Tides of Time (106) (actual size:~34)
Eternal Champions (39)
Forgotten Worlds (23)
Gain Ground (98) (actual size:~26)
Galaxy Force II (23)
Ghouls 'n Ghosts (27)
Gley Lancer (24)
Golden Axe (95) (actual size:~23)
Golden Axe II (99) (actual size:27)
Golden Axe III (29)
Gunstar Heroes (98) (actual size:26)
Kid Chameleon (102) (actual size:~30)
Landstalker (35)
Light Crusader (35)
Mega Turrican (32)
MUSHA (22)
Phantasy Star II (32)
Phantasy Star III: Generations of Doom (31)
Phantasy Star IV: End of the Millennium (42)
Pitfall: The Mayan Adventure (34)
Powerball (26)
Pulseman (32)
Puyo Puyo 2 (35)
Ristar (104) (actual size:~32)
Rolling Thunder 2 (28)
Shining Force (105) (actual size:~33)
Shining Force II (30)
Shining in the Darkness (101) (actual size:~29)
Shinobi III: Return of the Ninja Master (101) (actual size:~29)
Sonic 3D Blast (45)
Sonic Spinball (99) (actual size:~27)
Sonic the Hedgehog (96) (actual size:~24)
Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (102) (actual size:~30)
Sonic the Hedgehog 3 (36)
Space Harrier II (94) (actual size:~22)
Splatterhouse 2 (20)
Street Fighter II: Special Champion Edition (32)
Streets of Rage (99) (actual size:27)
Streets of Rage 2 (104) (actual size:32)
Streets of Rage 3 (38)
Super Fantasy Zone (25)
Super Thunder Blade (24)
Sword of Vermilion (98) (actual size:~26)
The Revenge of Shinobi (25)
ToeJam & Earl (100) (actual size:28)
ToeJam & Earl in Panic on Funkotron (107) (actual size:~35)
Vectorman (29)
Virtua Fighter 2 (111) (actual size:~39)
Wolf of the Battlefield: Mercs (26)
Wonder Boy III: Monster Lair (23)
Wonder Boy in Monster World (100) (actual size:28)

--- Posts should now be allowed. Thank you for the patience and any help maintaing this and or getting this pinned.

User Info: dlf

10 years ago#9
I know I forgot the games that came out yesterday, I will hopefully fix that. Will this actually get pinned or not? Up to this board I guess.

User Info: DonaldMick

10 years ago#10
You got my vote for a sticky
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