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DarthAya44 1 month ago#31
raybull16 posted...
Looks at goku lmao

Goku just got sucker punched. Tired MSSB Goku took a similar amount of hits as fresh newly tranformed UE Geetz and didnt almost pass out.
Brolypotence 1 month ago#32
DarthAya44 posted...
Goku just got sucker punched. Tired MSSB Goku took a similar amount of hits as fresh newly tranformed UE Geetz and didnt almost pass out.
lmao MSSB > UI now?

you sound even dumber than before
UE feels more and more like the transformation was something Toyo cooked up in 5 min to not make Vegeta feel behind in the transformation arms race with Goku.
DarthAya44 1 month ago#33
Brolypotence posted...
lmao MSSB > UI now?

you sound even dumber than before

The feats don't lie.
AnonDB 1 month ago#34
@DarthAya44 It's hilarious that you're obsessed with a children's manga having consistent logic from a gag mangaka who couldn't care less.

But it takes more pathetic mental gymnastics to believe that 3 arcs ago forgotten jobber antagonist Jiren isn't fodder.
thedarklordx3 1 month ago#35
MSSB > UI makes sense if you just assume that Goku got a zenkai, because he clearly appears to be stronger after Vegeta fights Granola imo. So I think his current MSSB is stronger than the UI that got oneshot by Granola.
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AnonDB 1 month ago#36
thedarklordx3 posted...
MSSB > UI makes sense if you just assume that Goku got a zenkai, because he clearly appears to be stronger after Vegeta fights Granola imo. So I think his current MSSB is stronger than the UI that got oneshot by Granola.
This headcanon again.
He didn't get any zenkai.
UI was the only reason he was able to evade the vital strike and play dead but Goku was still weak fodder with SSB. Got knocked out by a single kick.

Granolah isn't being touched without the Ultra forms.
DarthAya44 1 month ago#37
AnonDB posted...
@DarthAya44 It's hilarious that you're obsessed with a children's manga having consistent logic from a gag mangaka who couldn't care less.

But it takes more pathetic mental gymnastics to believe that 3 arcs ago forgotten jobber antagonist Jiren isn't fodder.

If you don't go by feats , all you've got left is personal wishes. UE isn't stronger in story just cos you want it to be.
DarthAya44 1 month ago#38
AnonDB posted...
This headcanon again.
He didn't get any zenkai.
UI was the only reason he was able to evade the vital strike and play dead but Goku was still weak fodder with SSB. Got knocked out by a single kick.

Granolah isn't being touched without the Ultra forms.

Vegeta didn't almost pass out with SSBE. Before he powered up again Granolah made UEnVegetas vision blur and hurt his brain. SSBE was only defeated by those pressure point strikes, which Granolah conveniently stopped doing against UE. PLOT saved UE from a defeat worse and more humiliating than SSBE's.
ReoSama 1 month ago#39
DarthAya44 posted...
Vegeta didn't almost pass out with SSBE. Before he powered up again Granolah made UEnVegetas vision blur and hurt his brain. SSBE was only defeated by those pressure point strikes, which Granolah conveniently stopped doing against UE. PLOT saved UE from a defeat worse and more humiliating than SSBE's.

We can speculate that Granolah stopped using the pressure points because Vegeta is a more conventional brawler. He was trying very hard to find a counter to the dodging hax and immediately saw the right opportunity to one shoot Goku because there was no other way. UE is like a berserker. The ability to get numb to pain until they can't take anymore and being fueled by say pain. Even pressing the pressure point was not guaranteed to take effect until much later.
ViewtifulGrave 1 month ago#40
DarthAya44 posted...
If you don't go by feats , all you've got left is personal wishes. UE isn't stronger in story just cos you want it to be.
You could say the same thing about Toppo.
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