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AnonDB 2 months ago#1
  1. Jobbed instantly to SSBE in the manga, the anime version with a filler GoD form also lost.
  2. Still massively below Jiren as a MSSB tier fighter despite his GoD training, current Vegeta can one shot Jiren effortlessly after Beerus beat him up and threw logs at him for a few weeks.
  3. Doesn't even have Hakai in the manga. Just god ki.
Calls 2 months ago#2
He doesnt have plot in his side
Eternatus 2 months ago#3
AnonDB posted...
current Vegeta can one shot Jiren effortlessly after Beerus beat him up and threw logs at him for a few weeks.

"one-shot Jiren"
lol yeah sure, that totally would happen

Do you think Jiren is sleeping or something? He's probably training as hard as always. If we ever see him in canon again he won't be made into a fodder.
deepsquid 2 months ago#4
Didn't he use Hakai against Goku battle?
Brolypotence 2 months ago#5
Toppo had hakai in the anime, and stomped SSBE until the rage/pride boost (this happened to Jiren too lmao)

the manga one was a failure though

so no, Anime Toppo is not a failure. Manga Toppo is.
UE feels more and more like the transformation was something Toyo cooked up in 5 min to not make Vegeta feel behind in the transformation arms race with Goku.
supermichael11 2 months ago#6
Eternatus posted...
"one-shot Jiren"
lol yeah sure, that totally would happen

Do you think Jiren is sleeping or something? He's probably training as hard as always. If we ever see him in canon again he won't be made into a fodder.

Unless Jiren trains with someone stronger or better than himself, he won't make any huge gains. In his Universe the only one who is above Jiren is his universe Angel, which I doubt he would train with his universe Angel.

His Universe GoD is below Jiren in power.

Goku and Vegeta train with those who are above themselves in skills and power.
http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/88/ dragon ball forum
AnonDB 2 months ago#7
Eternatus posted...
"one-shot Jiren"
lol yeah sure, that totally would happen

Do you think Jiren is sleeping or something? He's probably training as hard as always. If we ever see him in canon again he won't be made into a fodder.
*ToP Jiren then. (Your hypothetical version is headcanon btw.)
Imagine being this offended over a antagonist in DB being surpassed.

Would you also get offended if I told you that Android 17/18 can one shot Namek Freeza?
SSJPurple 2 months ago#8
He’s “In training” so to be fair that implies his GoD training is incomplete.

And let’s not forget the anime version with the GoD form was gimped by the no killing rule

GoD Toppo was probably the strongest person there if you exclude Jiren/Goku/Vegeta
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AnonDB 2 months ago#9
SSJPurple posted...
He’s “In training” so to be fair that implies his GoD training is incomplete.

And let’s not forget the anime version with the GoD form was gimped by the no killing rule

GoD Toppo was probably the strongest person there if you exclude Jiren/Goku/Vegeta
Anime Kefla scales higher.
SSJPurple 2 months ago#10
AnonDB posted...
Anime Kefla scales higher.

Even so he’d still be top 5 strongest in the entire tournament.
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