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deepsquid
1 month ago#21
Djyc21215 posted...
Don't worry. He still stands no chance against UI Goku, I'm willing to bet money on that. There is no beerus wank from Toriyama, it's entirely the Fans that are doing it. Remember Toriyama himself wrote Beerus to be surpassed in the Broly movie, not Toei or Toyotaro. Toriyama himself also wrote Beerus to avoid picking a fight with MUI Goku after goku got him in trouble, not Toyotaro or Toei.

Beerus's days are coming to a close, just be patient. The Beerus wankers know this, Hence why this new narrative they have is "Ignore the past chapters bro, Retcons!" eventhough there has been NO retcons. Jiren is still stronger than Belmond, who managed to put beerus in this position:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/9/0/AAe25-AABvDq.jpg

I hope so, even for sake of consisteny, but if UI Goku is (much) stronger than 1~2 month Hakai Vegeta, let say "Vegeta never had a chance" against UI Goku...

Then that would show how delusional Vegeta and Beerus are. Like.. unimaginably delusional..... have they forgotten UI Goku's feats during Moro Arc? Do they have that weak memory?

User Info: Walt87

Walt87
1 month ago#22
deepsquid posted...
I hope so, even for sake of consisteny, but if UI Goku is (much) stronger than 1~2 month Hakai Vegeta, let say "Vegeta never had a chance" against UI Goku...

Then that would show how delusional Vegeta and Beerus are. Like.. unimaginably delusional..... have they forgotten UI Goku's feats during Moro Arc? Do they have that weak memory?

The most likely scenario is that Beerus is a moving goalpost never meant to be caught. Hes only there to show that Goku and Vegeta have more work to do, consistency be damned. Toriyama could not give two flips about consistency, just think about all the conflicting statements and feats regarding Beerus. In one arc he's roughly the same tier as all the other gods, and Jiren by extension. In the next movie hes hinted as being weaker than Broly, but then in the following arc it's made clear hes far above Moro 73 and thinks he can destroy him easily. Now he says he can make someone much weaker than himself(Vegeta) a rival to Goku. It is what it is at this point, terrible writing with no thought toward the next arc.

User Info: deepsquid

deepsquid
1 month ago#23
Walt87 posted...
The most likely scenario is that Beerus is a moving goalpost never meant to be caught. Hes only there to show that Goku and Vegeta have more work to do, consistency be damned. Toriyama could not give two flips about consistency, just think about all the conflicting statements and feats regarding Beerus. In one arc he's roughly the same tier as all the other gods, and Jiren by extension. In the next movie hes hinted as being weaker than Broly, but then in the following arc it's made clear hes far above Moro 73 and thinks he can destroy him easily. Now he says he can make someone much weaker than himself(Vegeta) a rival to Goku. It is what it is at this point, terrible writing with no thought toward the next arc.

If Toriyama writes like that, then imo it's good time for him to retire and give someone else full control over DBS franchise.

He may have invented Dragonball, and it became a huge success. But it doesn't give him the license to write like this...

User Info: Walt87

Walt87
1 month ago#24
deepsquid posted...
If Toriyama writes like that, then imo it's good time for him to retire and give someone else full control over DBS franchise.

He may have invented Dragonball, and it became a huge success. But it doesn't give him the license to write like this...

It definitely makes the series less interesting when thought of like that. Unfortunately theres a lot of evidence that's the way it is. And Toriyama could probably care less about consistency. Hes getting paid big bucks to change Goku and Vegetas hair every couple years.
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