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User Info: SpiralSwords

SpiralSwords
2 months ago#11
Who were the last GoD's standing tho?

Belmod does nothing except pretend to be knocked out. Please stop overestimating him.

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User Info: Djyc21215

Djyc21215
2 months ago#12
ColZach posted...
I guess?

Beerus>MUI Goku>Vegeta>Jiren>Belmod

Vegeta can't land a single hit on Beerus in current SSBE form. Belmond however, as shown by the above Manga scans did that and more. Belmond > Vegeta. Which by Default means Jiren > Vegeta.

User Info: Djyc21215

Djyc21215
2 months ago#13
SpiralSwords posted...
Who were the last GoD's standing tho?

Belmod does nothing except pretend to be knocked out. Please stop overestimating him.

The last God standing was going to be Belmond before the Daishinkan stopped the fight.

He also caused more damage to beerus than current arc SSBE Vegeta did.

User Info: MUIGogito

MUIGogito
2 months ago#14
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User Info: God_of_Magic

God_of_Magic
2 months ago#15
Djyc21215 posted...
Vegeta can't land a single hit on Beerus in current SSBE form. Belmond however, as shown by the above Manga scans did that and more. Belmond > Vegeta. Which by Default means Jiren > Vegeta.
The point is that the battle royal seems to put the GoDs on a fairly even playing field. Which would mean they are relative to one another in power. However, the story has continued a great deal since then and established that the power they showed in the royal, Beerus specifically, has changed. Others being able to damage or restrain Beerus is not consistent with his current power level.

We are then told Broly is maybe stronger than Beerus. The current manga chapter shows us this is a lie. Whis tells us there is no one in our universe that is stronger than Goku and Vegeta. This would mean that Vegeta, being the weak link between him and Goku, is stronger than Broly is now. We then get a fight scene with Beerus and this same Vegeta who he stomps with no effort. Thus confirming that Broly is not on Beerus' level, by a large margin. They also claim that Broly was the strongest fighter they had ever fought. Which would put him above Jiren and by extension Belmod as well. In the novel, Frieza backs this up saying that SS Broly couldn't be defeated by anyone. This is after all three of them had fought Jiren previously in the ToP. Hence where the "moving goal post" phrase comes from people when describing Beerus' power. Each time we think Goku is close to him in power, Beerus somehow keeps being stronger than him.

So we then have the following chain: Beerus >>> SSBE Vegeta Reborn > Broly > Jiren > Belmod. Which is a direct contradiction to what is shown in the Battle Royal. It also pre-dates the full power that Toriyama and Toyataro needed Beerus to have to be able to do what he has shown. BoG is now comical because of this in the sense that Beerus wanted a challenge from the SSG but it turns out that challenge was < 1% of Beerus' full power. Because of this the Battle Royal can't really be thought of anything other than an outlier.
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User Info: Ghostrain23

Ghostrain23
2 months ago#16
Djyc21215 posted...
The scans all go with each other. How am I talking out of my ass when the scan themselves are showing Belmond being above Beerus? For you people that say the Anime is Canon, you also have Whis directly saying Belmond is above Beerus.
Belmod is above beerus jus as much as quitela is in the manga. With an arm wrestling feat lmao. Anyways clearly this means a lot to you so sure man have at it. If that’s what you want to believe and be wrong then by all means.

User Info: God_of_Magic

God_of_Magic
2 months ago#17
Djyc21215 posted...
The last God standing was going to be Belmond before the Daishinkan stopped the fight.
Lmao, no he wasn't. He was playing dead because he wanted no part of Beerus and Quintella. Saying he was going to magically win after playing dead is about as smart as saying Frieza was going to win the ToP after he got wrecked by Toppo.

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User Info: ColZach

ColZach
2 months ago#18
Djyc21215 posted...
Vegeta can't land a single hit on Beerus in current SSBE form. Belmond however, as shown by the above Manga scans did that and more. Belmond > Vegeta. Which by Default means Jiren > Vegeta.


Sorry, that's incorrect.

Vegeta>That one version of Moro

Besides, Whis explicitly puts Vegeta AND Goku above Broly and Jiren.

User Info: Djyc21215

Djyc21215
2 months ago#19
ColZach posted...
Sorry, that's incorrect.

Vegeta>That one version of Moro

Besides, Whis explicitly puts Vegeta AND Goku above Broly and Jiren.

Whis never mentions broly nor Jiren ever by name post-Tournament of power.

Belmond could Injure Beerus. Vegeta could not. Therefore Belmond> Vegeta. It's not rocket science. Which also means, Jiren > Vegeta.

User Info: ColZach

ColZach
2 months ago#20
Djyc21215 posted...
Whis never mentions broly nor Jiren ever by name post-Tournament of power.

Belmond could Injure Beerus. Vegeta could not. Therefore Belmond> Vegeta. It's not rocket science. Which also means, Jiren > Vegeta.

If that's the hill you want to die on, sure. It felt pretty conclusive to me. Blatant statements>extrapolation for me. Guess we'll see...eventually? Who knows.
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