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User Info: bultje112

bultje112
4 years ago#21
Shamrock99 posted...
Good lord... this game is so much more fun than I remember! I remember it being more of a chore and it forever made me steer clear of dungeon crawlers afterward. Nowadays, the battle are fun and go quickly compared to other RPGs I've played. Not much loading in this game at all, really.

I'm almost done with the Aborigine Mansion now.

I gotta' say, this website has helped me make sure not to miss any items, and it's been a real blast:

http://rpg-home.lunar-net.com/stha-web/

I wish every RPG... or even every GAME in general had a site like that one!


it's a clear proof of how gaming tastes develop with age. I remember for instance the first time ever playining shining force 3 I didn't like the battles so much and they were everywhere! now like 15 years later it's one of my favorite games ever and the battles are my favorite thing!
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User Info: bultje112

bultje112
4 years ago#22
Shamrock99 posted...
Lol

It's dead nowadays, but used to have a nice following. Still has some good topics archived though. Better luck to be had at the Ark board at ShiningForceCentral.com


for some activity on shining games always check shining force central although that place is dead now too compared to 10 years ago. very sad....
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User Info: MartinIIIa

MartinIIIa
4 years ago#23
Shamrock99 posted...
MartinIIIa posted...
If you're not at all tempted to revisit the game, why not sell it? Somebody else might be looking forward to enjoying it.

Hell no! Regardless of whether I ever play the game again or not, I bought the game brand new for $50 when it was released and it's officially mine, to be part of my collection forever. The game isn't rare so there are plenty of copies available for sale on eBay if someone wants to try the game out.


Copies don't just magically appear on Ebay. They end up there because people who weren't playing the game put it up for sale so that others could enjoy it. Shocking as it may seem, if everyone who bought the game when it was released held onto their copy, there wouldn't be any on eBay.

bultje112 posted...
for some activity on shining games always check shining force central although that place is dead now too compared to 10 years ago. very sad....


Not surprised to hear that it's dead now. For an online forum to keep going, it needs at least an occasional infusion of new members, and by the time I left a few years ago, Shining Force Central had become very hostile to newbies. In fact, the reason I left was because I was sick of seeing this same pattern play out over and over again:

1.New member joins SFC forums, says hi to everyone, starts participating in discussions.
2.SFC's resident trolls immediately start flame-baiting the new member with unprovoked personal attacks.
3.Whether it be a matter of hours or a matter of months, the new member eventually loses his temper and posts an angry rant.
4.The SFC mods step in and immediately ban the new member for his outburst, while not even giving a mild reprimand to the trolls who incited the outburst.

I know at least two other members who left in similar disgust at this, too.

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Shamrock99
4 years ago#24
MartinIIIa posted...
Shamrock99 posted...
MartinIIIa posted...
If you're not at all tempted to revisit the game, why not sell it? Somebody else might be looking forward to enjoying it.

Hell no! Regardless of whether I ever play the game again or not, I bought the game brand new for $50 when it was released and it's officially mine, to be part of my collection forever. The game isn't rare so there are plenty of copies available for sale on eBay if someone wants to try the game out.


Copies don't just magically appear on Ebay. They end up there because people who weren't playing the game put it up for sale so that others could enjoy it. Shocking as it may seem, if everyone who bought the game when it was released held onto their copy, there wouldn't be on eBay.

Pretty sure 99.9% of the people selling their copies of the game on eBay are doing it for this reason: Money. Not because they feel the need to cater to other gamers out there by making sure there is a copy of this game available for them to buy and play. The fact that you think people should sell their belongings whenever they aren't currently using them is comical. Not reading this book on my bookshelf right now? Better put it up for sale so someone else can read it while I'm not! Who does that?!

And how annoying and stupid would it be having to re-buy a game every time you want to play it? Having to spend $40-60 again every time I want to play Shining the Holy Ark? Ridiculous. Just pay for it once, it is now yours, and keep it. There is no obligation to give up your possessions just because you're currently not using them.

Won't be using my lawnmower all winter... better retrieve it from the garage and sell it so someone else can use it! Will buy another next Spring/Summer... no.
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bultje112
4 years ago#25
MartinIIIa posted...
Shamrock99 posted...
MartinIIIa posted...
If you're not at all tempted to revisit the game, why not sell it? Somebody else might be looking forward to enjoying it.

Hell no! Regardless of whether I ever play the game again or not, I bought the game brand new for $50 when it was released and it's officially mine, to be part of my collection forever. The game isn't rare so there are plenty of copies available for sale on eBay if someone wants to try the game out.


Copies don't just magically appear on Ebay. They end up there because people who weren't playing the game put it up for sale so that others could enjoy it. Shocking as it may seem, if everyone who bought the game when it was released held onto their copy, there wouldn't be any on eBay.

bultje112 posted...
for some activity on shining games always check shining force central although that place is dead now too compared to 10 years ago. very sad....


Not surprised to hear that it's dead now. For an online forum to keep going, it needs at least an occasional infusion of new members, and by the time I left a few years ago, Shining Force Central had become very hostile to newbies. In fact, the reason I left was because I was sick of seeing this same pattern play out over and over again:

1.New member joins SFC forums, says hi to everyone, starts participating in discussions.
2.SFC's resident trolls immediately start flame-baiting the new member with unprovoked personal attacks.
3.Whether it be a matter of hours or a matter of months, the new member eventually loses his temper and posts an angry rant.
4.The SFC mods step in and immediately ban the new member for his outburst, while not even giving a mild reprimand to the trolls who incited the outburst.

I know at least two other members who left in similar disgust at this, too.


I don't recognize anything of that. but weren't you the guy who hated scenario 2?
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zeleny
4 years ago#26
Shamrock99 posted...
Pretty sure 99.9% of the people selling their copies of the game on eBay are doing it for this reason: Money. Not because they feel the need to cater to other gamers out there by making sure there is a copy of this game available for them to buy and play. The fact that you think people should sell their belongings whenever they aren't currently using them is comical. Not reading this book on my bookshelf right now? Better put it up for sale so someone else can read it while I'm not! Who does that?!


Hmm, not sure if I'll qualify for that .1%. I'll admit to contemplating on selling a huge chunk of my retro stuff on eBay. The money won't hurt and clearing space a big plus. But the main motivating factor here--looking for an even better home for my collection. Someone who'll appreciate and care for these pieces. Don't feel obliged, just those that I don't care or intend to play again. I kinda regret selling some of my games/consoles in the past--those I wish I could still pick up and play but for the most part, glad to have let go.

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Shamrock99
4 years ago#27
Some sell because they need space.
Some sell because they don't like the game.
Some sell for the money.
But I'm pretty sure those who sell strictly because they want other gamers to enjoy it are a minuscule amount in comparison.
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MartinIIIa
4 years ago#28
bultje112 posted...
I don't recognize anything of that. but weren't you the guy who hated scenario 2?


I'm sure that for every game in the Shining series there are several fans who hated it. But no, I don't hold any particular hatred for Scenario 2; I'd say the only one I hate is Shining Wisdom. I'm the guy who wrote fan fiction (and still does - working on my latest Shining Force CD novel now).

Shamrock99 posted...
Pretty sure 99.9% of the people selling their copies of the game on eBay are doing it for this reason: Money. Not because they feel the need to cater to other gamers out there by making sure there is a copy of this game available for them to buy and play. The fact that you think people should sell their belongings whenever they aren't currently using them is comical. Not reading this book on my bookshelf right now? Better put it up for sale so someone else can read it while I'm not! Who does that?!

And how annoying and stupid would it be having to re-buy a game every time you want to play it? Having to spend $40-60 again every time I want to play Shining the Holy Ark? Ridiculous. Just pay for it once, it is now yours, and keep it. There is no obligation to give up your possessions just because you're currently not using them.

Won't be using my lawnmower all winter... better retrieve it from the garage and sell it so someone else can use it! Will buy another next Spring/Summer... no.


You didn't say that you simply weren't playing Shining the Holy Ark at this particular moment. You said:

" This will be my final time playing it though. One playthrough in 1997, and one final playthrough in 2014. Now it will just sit in its case in my collection for me to look at every once in awhile."

And again:

" Regardless of whether I ever play the game again or not, I bought the game brand new for $50 when it was released and it's officially mine, to be part of my collection forever."

Anyone who doubts my word can go back and read your posts for themselves. Also, I never said anything about people's motivations for putting things up for sale, and moreover there are indeed people who will sell items even though they don't need the money so that other people can enjoy them, myself included. In fact, there are people who give away their old video games for free so that other people can enjoy them. So yes, that's quite the misplaced rant you've made there.

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Shamrock99
4 years ago#29
^ Like I said, the amount of people selling their games for the sole purpose of other gamers getting to play them is VERY SMALL. I'm sure you ARE one of those people who fits into that miniscule percentage, and that's fine.

I currently have no plans to play through this game again, but who knows, maybe I eventually WILL want to... and if I were to sell it in the meantime then I'll be part of the group of people who say "Damn, I wish I never sold that game! What was I thinking? Now I have to rebuy it... and the price has gone up! How stupid of me!" No thanks. Watch this game go for $200+ in the future. There are people already spending $60 - $100 for it on eBay right now.

Yeah, I'll go on a rant when someone tells me to sell arguably my favorite RPG just because I want to play some other games instead of playing this one game over and over again.
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bultje112
4 years ago#30
MartinIIIa posted...
bultje112 posted...
I don't recognize anything of that. but weren't you the guy who hated scenario 2?


I'm sure that for every game in the Shining series there are several fans who hated it. But no, I don't hold any particular hatred for Scenario 2; I'd say the only one I hate is Shining Wisdom. I'm the guy who wrote fan fiction (and still does - working on my latest Shining Force CD novel now).

Shamrock99 posted...
Pretty sure 99.9% of the people selling their copies of the game on eBay are doing it for this reason: Money. Not because they feel the need to cater to other gamers out there by making sure there is a copy of this game available for them to buy and play. The fact that you think people should sell their belongings whenever they aren't currently using them is comical. Not reading this book on my bookshelf right now? Better put it up for sale so someone else can read it while I'm not! Who does that?!

And how annoying and stupid would it be having to re-buy a game every time you want to play it? Having to spend $40-60 again every time I want to play Shining the Holy Ark? Ridiculous. Just pay for it once, it is now yours, and keep it. There is no obligation to give up your possessions just because you're currently not using them.

Won't be using my lawnmower all winter... better retrieve it from the garage and sell it so someone else can use it! Will buy another next Spring/Summer... no.


You didn't say that you simply weren't playing Shining the Holy Ark at this particular moment. You said:

" This will be my final time playing it though. One playthrough in 1997, and one final playthrough in 2014. Now it will just sit in its case in my collection for me to look at every once in awhile."

And again:

" Regardless of whether I ever play the game again or not, I bought the game brand new for $50 when it was released and it's officially mine, to be part of my collection forever."

Anyone who doubts my word can go back and read your posts for themselves. Also, I never said anything about people's motivations for putting things up for sale, and moreover there are indeed people who will sell items even though they don't need the money so that other people can enjoy them, myself included. In fact, there are people who give away their old video games for free so that other people can enjoy them. So yes, that's quite the misplaced rant you've made there.


then I'm mistaking you with a guy who posted a horrible review for scenario 2 on this gamefaqs.
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