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User Info: Bad_Mojo

Bad_Mojo
4 months ago#11
codemann8 posted...
Pyramid is weak against Gravity, causing Death on it. So if you're able to steal any items that use Gravity before then, it's possible to time it right when you use a gravity item on yourself but the Pyramid gets cast first. It would be difficult to time it right, but not impossible. Just spitballing here.

Graviballs are dropped by Deenglow in the Train Graveyard, no need to worry about AP on your Steal.

Someone already mentioned spider webs. Reno is vulnerable to Slow, Stop, Sleep, and Poison. Just to give you a couple ideas.

Also, when you say no attacks. Do you mean no physical attacks? If not, how do you kill enemies?


I think I get what you’re saying, but will Clour still throw the Gravi Ball if he’s in the Pyramid?

What is the level caps anyways? In FFT we cap levels per chapter, and I would assume there would be a cap for each disc here. I’ll see if I can find it. Maybe I get catch a few levels and get Bolt2 and maybe do enough damage?
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codemann8
4 months ago#12
You may just have to grind Cloud's Magic and Dexterity stat to be strong and fast enough to take out Reno quickly, unfortunately Reno has no elemental weakness.

Might want to grab some Deadly Waste dropped from Smogger in Reactor 5 for extra damage each round.
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User Info: Bad_Mojo

Bad_Mojo
4 months ago#13
codemann8 posted...
You may just have to grind Cloud's Magic and Dexterity stat to be strong and fast enough to take out Reno quickly, unfortunately Reno has no elemental weakness.


So I might have to use Inns. Those Ghost Hands drain HP, right. If they drain MP then I don’t need the Inns to grind
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User Info: codemann8

codemann8
4 months ago#14
Ghost Hand items drain MP.

Also, I'm sure you looked this up, but your first chance to get a zero growth armor is Demon Gate when he drops it in TOTA. So basically as long as you can plan your AP for Steal and don't level up before then.

User Info: Bad_Mojo

Bad_Mojo
4 months ago#15
Hmm

I wish I was better at math to see what sort of position I need to be in order to do around 1,000 damage with Bolt or Ice
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codemann8
4 months ago#16
I know what you mean, and unfortunately those calculations are quite complicated. However @DynamixDJ has some kind of a calculator, which he's shown me, but I have no clue how to use :p At least to the level of which you're looking for. Especially around simulating what your stats should be (generally what level Cloud should be at) and seeing the damage there.

I should also note that Reno halves the damage from lightning, and gravity damage is nullified.

And an interesting point, I was scrolling thru the battle mechanics guide and found that the "Imprisoned" status is inflicted by Pyramid which flags your character as Dead. Imprisoned status is only protected from if you have Petrify status, another status that flags your character as Dead, how convenient huh?

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Bad_Mojo
4 months ago#17
codemann8 posted...
Pyramid which flags your character as Dead


So maybe that would 'kill' Barrett and I can just hope Barrett can draw enough fire and then catch a Pyramid at the best time. Thanks for telling me about Bolt, I didn't know that. I'll see what kind of damage I can do with Ice right now.

The main issue was trying to kill Barrett, kill him with Magic since I can't Attack him (Cloud's Limit Bar is full), but if we can count Barrett as dead once he's in the Pyramid, then maybe I can get it done. . .
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Bad_Mojo
4 months ago#18
Okay, did about 7 damage. I thought for a second he wouldn’t do it to the last person, but I think it’s doable.

I was hitting for a out 103-109 damage, and I haven’t really grinded yet. I’m going to try a few more times like this and then I’ll level up twice, or maybe until I get a MA increase. By then maybe I can get Ice2?

Edit -

Forgot about getting the Dex boost from Steal. That might help as well

Edit 2 -

Going from 11 to 12 took my MAGIC from 31 to 33

Just lost to Reno because Cloud got the Pyramid before Barrett. Leveled up again and now my MAGIC is only 32, so it’s not set in stone. So maybe can try to get better Levels like in Fire Emblem?
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DynamixDJ
4 months ago#19
codemann8 posted...
I know what you mean, and unfortunately those calculations are quite complicated. However @DynamixDJ has some kind of a calculator, which he's shown me, but I have no clue how to use :p At least to the level of which you're looking for. Especially around simulating what your stats should be (generally what level Cloud should be at) and seeing the damage there.

If you were to grind Cloud to Lv 50, the highest his magic Stat can be is 78. Even if you were to hit the highest possible 78 magic stat, Ice2 would still only deal 843 damage against Turks:Reno lol.
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Bad_Mojo
4 months ago#20
I just got Blade Beam, lol
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