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User Info: Snorlax_exlax

Snorlax_exlax
6 days ago#21
Sir Will posted...
Between this and Leo, why is Quistis still at only 3 uses? Does she every get buffed with more?
her c65 is ability recovery, so her 4th use comes from that

more uses beyond that would have been nice, but her EX+ and rework are great, so it’s not like it kills her kit or anything
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Sir Will
6 days ago#22
Ah, ok. Thanks.
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eoddel
6 days ago#23
Air Superiority.
Sounds like a launcher.

User Info: TitanOxide

TitanOxide
6 days ago#24
undefined posted...
Does anyone know why Aranea's normal [Dragoon Dive] at Turn 1 dealt 30213 HP Damage?
* 30123 = 150% of her MAX BRV at Turn 1 = 1.5 x 20142

Because this are her available info during Turn 1:
* INT BRV = 3563
* 1st Hit = 1883
* 2nd Hit = 1864
* 3rd Hit = 3479
* 4th Hit = 3536
* 5th Hit = 3550
* 6th Hit = 3518

But the above only sums to 21393
Therefore, Aranea magically gained at least 8820 BRV from somewhere?

Does JP currently have another way to gain BRV when using S1 πŸ€”β“
Her dealing 30123 when she should only hit 20142 is nearly a 50% increase.
If you look, she also has a passive proc after the attack called Miss Mercenary, I think this might have something to do.
A passive +50% HP damage (even with strict conditions) is amazing if that's what is happening here.
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User Info: ellis123

ellis123
6 days ago#25
victorsoh posted...
Does anyone know why Aranea's normal [Dragoon Dive] at Turn 1 dealt 30213 HP Damage?
She gets a 50% boost to BRV damage on crit that applies *after* the damage has been done (they just call it a crit boost but it clearly doesn't happen beforehand like normal crit boosts). So for those last bits she is only dealing ~3.5k damage but she is actually getting ~5k BRV out of the deal. If you multiply all of the numbers together with the bonus you get 3563 + (1883 + 1864 + 3479 + 3536 + 3550 + 3518) * 1.5 = 30308. While not exact it is suspiciously close to the actual number we got and implies that even the first ones are getting the boost despite being normal hits. Either that or there is a rounding error which, frankly, wouldn't surprise me in the slightest.

TitanOxide posted...
Her dealing 30123 when she should only hit 20142 is nearly a 50% increase.
If you look, she also has a passive proc after the attack called Miss Mercenary, I think this might have something to do.
A passive +50% HP damage (even with strict conditions) is amazing if that's what is happening here.
That's also quite probable. That would me a whole lot more sense than the first ones randomly getting a 50% boost and it would also give reason as to why the 50% boost seemed to apply after the whole thing unlike all of the other crit boosts we've seen. The only bit of funk is that her BRV actually does go up to ~30k (I was only able to spot it hitting 29k before it went down to 0 from the skill connecting) which is a bit odd when compared to something like Sherlotta's similar effect.
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DuddyTheClown
6 days ago#26
This cursed Zack drained all my gems and now they bring the Ultra Super Unit. I demand 10 free pulls!!!

User Info: TitanOxide

TitanOxide
6 days ago#27
DuddyTheClown posted...
I demand 10 free pulls!!!
Granted, but they are split between ten banners.

Oh wait....
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User Info: igor140

igor140
6 days ago#28
victorsoh posted...
Does anyone know why Aranea's normal [Dragoon Dive] at Turn 1 dealt 30213 HP Damage?
* 30123 = 150% of her MAX BRV at Turn 1 = 1.5 x 20142

Because this are her available info during Turn 1:
* INT BRV = 3563
* 1st Hit = 1883
* 2nd Hit = 1864
* 3rd Hit = 3479
* 4th Hit = 3536
* 5th Hit = 3550
* 6th Hit = 3518

But the above only sums to 21393
Therefore, Aranea magically gained at least 8820 BRV from somewhere?

Does JP currently have another way to gain BRV when using S1 πŸ€”β“
i think what's happening is that she does her 6-hit combo like every other character, but IF that includes crit hits (and hits against broken enemies are auto-crits), then she accumulates an additional 50% of the BRV damage she just inflicted.

if you look at it very carefully during 0:13, her she only accrues ~23k BRV... and then unleashes a 30k hit. the only thing i can think of is that her "150% on crit" feature doesn't mean that each crit hit does 50% more damage; it means that she attacks with 50% more total BRV if any part of her attack crit'd... which is almost guaranteed as far as i can tell.
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victorsoh
6 days ago#29
TitanOxide posted...
Her dealing 30123 when she should only hit 20142 is nearly a 50% increase.
If you look, she also has a passive proc after the attack called Miss Mercenary, I think this might have something to do.
A passive +50% HP damage (even with strict conditions) is amazing if that's what is happening here.
πŸ‘Thanks @TitanOxide for the idea that Aranea might have +50% HP Damage :)
I hope that's the case, but wouldn't Aranea be overpowered then? 😝

ellis123 posted...
She gets a 50% boost to BRV damage on crit that applies *after* the damage has been done (they just call it a crit boost but it clearly doesn't happen beforehand like normal crit boosts). So for those last bits she is only dealing ~3.5k damage but she is actually getting ~5k BRV out of the deal. If you multiply all of the numbers together with the bonus you get 3563 + (1883 + 1864 + 3479 + 3536 + 3550 + 3518) * 1.5 = 30308. While not exact it is suspiciously close to the actual number we got and implies that even the first ones are getting the boost despite being normal hits. Either that or there is a rounding error which, frankly, wouldn't surprise me in the slightest.
πŸ‘ Thanks @ellis123 for the idea :)
However, the following two cases does not support the idea:
  • Given that Aranea's normal [Dragoon Dive]'s first two-hits dealt normal BRV damage (i.e. 1883 and 1864)
  • Given that Critical Damage is 1.25x Normal Damage, and [Dragoon Dive] has Critical damage +50%, hence Critical Damage from [Dragoon Dive] should be 1.75x Normal Damage.


  1. Floor( 1883 x 1.75) = 3295; is close to [Dragoon Dive]'s Critical Damage (between 3479 and 3550) because all BRV damage is after the random multiplier between 0.99 and 1.1
  2. Floor(3563 + 1883 + 1864 + (3479 + 3536 + 3550 + 3518) x 1.5) = 28434 β‰  30213


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HatchetRyda
6 days ago#30
What would be the best support units for her? And what spheres will ppl be giving her?
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