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User Info: stop3

stop3
1 month ago#11
Tiael posted...
That's Foxconn and their HQ is in Taiwan though they have locations throughout China, that particular issue was Shenzhen, China.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn_suicides

Falcom is one of the oldest Japanese developers. They are behind Ys, The Legend of Heroes and more, founded over 40 years ago.
Oh yeah, haha.

User Info: TheDevilman

TheDevilman
1 month ago#12
Falcom was not recognized at all in Smash. Not even Spirits.

Interesting considering some of their franchises are as old as some of the oldest Nintendo ones.

Ys is pretty much as old as Zelda and Legend of Heroes is dumb old as well.

Nintendo basically doesn't acknowledge them at all

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TheDevilman
1 month ago#13
Also that article's first line states:

"Switch is really the first time that Falcom games have had a major presence on a Nintendo platform"

Yeah thats not true.
The very first Ys game: Ys: Ancient Ys Vanished, was available on the NES in August of 1988, a port of multiplatform game, published by Victor Interactive Software that had already been released a year prior, self published by Falcom, on systems like the NEC PC88, Sharp X1 (June 1987), NEC PC98 (Aug 1987), FM-7 Marty (Oct 1987), MSX (Dec 1987), then ported 1 year later in 1989 the NES version to the Sega Master System by Sega themselves, as well as a PC port that year by publisher Broderbund., an Apple II port that year by publisher Kyodai, and then in 1991 by publisher Densha Shinbunsha for the Sharp X680000. It would later get mobile ports in 2005 by both Hudson and Taito, as well as iOS/Android ports in 2015 by publisher DotEmu.

Ys II would also come out on the NES in May of 1990, with various other ports to other consoles .that had come out 2 years prior in 1988, self published by Falcom for the MSX, NEC PC88, NEC PC98, SharpX1 and FM-7 Marty.

Ys III: Wanderer from Ys, would release on the NES in 1991 by publisher Victor Interactive Software, alongside a Turbo CD version published by NEC, and a Sega Genesis version, published by Riot in Japan and Renovation in the U.S., after debuting in 1989 on the MSX, PC88, PC98, and the SharpX1, all four of those ports published direcly by Falcom in 1990, while also getting a remake in 1992 for the SNES published in Japan by Tonkin House, and localized to the West by American Sammy publisher.

Legacy of Ys Books I & II, a remake of Ys Book I & II that had originally come out in 1990 for the NEC TurboCD published by NEC (which got a PC port in 2002), had come out in 2009 on the Nintendo DS, co-developed by Interchannel-Holon alongside Falcom, on the Nintendo DS in 2009, licensed and published by Atlus USA and Nintendo. This got a 2011 port to the PSP and a 2013 PC port by XSeed publisher. A PS2 remake by DigiCube that had a PC port in 2013 was also made in 2002

In 1993, Ys IV: Mask of the Sun was at its time an SNES exclusive, developed by Advance Communication, published by Tonkin House in Japan, while a month later, Ys IV: The Dawn of Ys (PC Engine CD) was developed and publshed by Hudson Soft. These were two different games despite having the same story and "IV" title.
It would get a remake in 2005 for the PS2 titled Ys IV: Mask of the Sun: A new Theory, developed and published by Taito in Japan with a mobile port by them a year later, and then Falcom would remake the game yet again this time directly themselves, the canonical "fourth" installment Ys: Memories of Celceta for the PlayStation Vita in 2012, published/localized by XSeed, which would get a PC port in 2018 and a PS4 port in 2020 also published/localized; by XSeed

In 1995, the SNES would also get a Ys exclusive launch with Ys V: Ushinawareta Suna no Miyako Kefin, developed and published by Falcom in Japan.
This would later on get remade by Falcom themselves for the PS2, titled Ys V: Lost Kefin, Kingdom of Sand, published in Japan by Taito in 2006.

Also in 2006, the Nintendo DS would get an Ys exclusive, titled Ys Strategy, developed by Future Creates, published in Japan by Marvelous Entetaintment and localized in the EU./AU by Rising Star Games.

In 2018, the Nintendo Switch would get ports of 2016's PS4/PC release of Ys VIII: Lacrimose of DANA (which got a Vita port in 2017), published/localized by NIS America

In 2020, the Nintendo Switch would get a port of the 2012 PC game Ys Origin which had also gotten ports to the PS4/Vita prior in 2017, and the XBox in 2018, all published by DotEmu.

Finally in June of 2021, the Switch would get a port of Ys IX: Monstrum Nox alongside a PC/Stadia port on the same day (Stadia would also get a Ys VIII port earlier that year in April), published/localized by NIS America; originally the game appearing on the PS4 in February of that year.

User Info: HooliganComboFT

HooliganComboFT
1 month ago#14
The relationship definitely is very skewed. Nintendo is at “localizers maybe will late port a game for you or maybe not” status.

None of their games are very power pushing for Switch hardware either even the latest Kuro game [That is the biggest downward trend for the series] where they tried to go “bigger budget” for once which was only “big” in relative context terms for a typical Falcom game.

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gamerprince1999
1 month ago#15
TheDevilman posted...
Falcom was not recognized at all in Smash. Not even Spirits.

Interesting considering some of their franchises are as old as some of the oldest Nintendo ones.

Ys is pretty much as old as Zelda and Legend of Heroes is dumb old as well.

Nintendo basically doesn't acknowledge them at all
Which is a damn shame because they're one of the earliest pioneers of action-RPGs

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Shinstrike
1 month ago#16
TheDevilman posted...
Falcom was not recognized at all in Smash. Not even Spirits.

Interesting considering some of their franchises are as old as some of the oldest Nintendo ones.

Ys is pretty much as old as Zelda and Legend of Heroes is dumb old as well.

Nintendo basically doesn't acknowledge them at all

i do find that odd, but Ryu hayabusa , who came from probably the best game on NES Ninja gaiden also had no mention at all in the game. and this comes after the heavy support koei has been giving nintendo. they helped make some of the best games available on the switch.
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ecco6t9
1 month ago#17
FL81 posted...
basically, porting isn't as easy as "just recompile the software lmao"

That’s what happened with the 3DO version of Doom.
Time Magazine's Man Of The Year 2006.
Questionmarktarius 1 month ago#18
Do a slapdash translation of Ys 5, and wrap it in a thin emulator. Instant money.

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taosapao
1 month ago#19
Fayt23 posted...
Pretty obvious. They had Sony support them for their game engine in past games (Cold Steel) and they clearly had the fanbase to keep going that way. When switch started getting steam it wasn't like they could drop what they were doing which was still working and try again on Switch.

Honestly as kinggravy said I don't see them going to Switch unless their fanbase really is dead on PS and the PS5 doesn't move. If PS5 doesn't move then Falcom will do when what they did when their PC fanbase died long ago and they went to handhelds like the PSP. Though their PC fanbase has revived especially in the West so hard to say. Its a wait and see pretty much but with NISA and CL I don't think Switch fans are really in a bad place now.

But at this point their fanbase on PS has been dwindling. They went from the start of PSV, PS4 era in japan with 150k to 200k sales to now struggling to even sell past 60k. And as what Kondo mentioned. The budget for the latest game is supposed to be their biggest one this time with customized engine specifically build for PS4.

The money they received for localization is not going to be huge as they literally just give publisher like NISA or CLP their game code and then tell them to do everything like porting to other platform.

Unless Falcom tried to change, i think they are going to have a hard path in the future.
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Srheeropercent
1 month ago#20
Just you wait. Captain Falcom will be the villain in the next Fzero game.

They clearly hate Nintendo. And Nintendo know it

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