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User Info: chstar

chstar
4 weeks ago#1
How well will the New super mario bros games be remembered - Results (299 votes)
Classics in line with the original Super mario bros (world) titles
10.03% (30 votes)
30
Classics that didn't quite reach the same heights as the originals
26.09% (78 votes)
78
Decent platformers for their time
39.8% (119 votes)
119
ok....but they won't be remembered really
24.08% (72 votes)
72
This poll is now closed.
Now that the 'New Super Mario Bros series' has had some time to age. I am curious how the general community see's them. Are they classics along with the 8 and 16 bit originals? Just some solid platformers for their time? Or shameless cash ins?

https://i.imgtc.com/EZq7one.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxDrvwElZbk

https://www.metacritic.com/game/ds/new-super-mario-bros -metacritic score: 89

I admit my opinion has been mixed through the New Super mario bros series life. When the the original on the DS launched I was extremely excited to finally be playing a new 2D mario game again and I really enjoyed the experience. It seems the community at the time largely agreed with my opinion.

https://i.imgtc.com/OJdHAQf.png

https://youtu.be/Aq_gAPchRoM

https://www.metacritic.com/game/wii/new-super-mario-bros-wii
metal critic score: 87

However, I wasn't a big fan of the Wii iteration finding it...above average but nothing special. I am also not a fan of the chaotic multiplayer that was popularized by the Wii title. I much more a fan of multiplayer that was done in SMB3, mario world, or perfected in the Donkey Kong country titles. It seems the community at the time enjoyed this title as well.

https://i.imgtc.com/9NdBCa0.png

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lStslH0rVc

https://www.metacritic.com/game/3ds/new-super-mario-bros-2
metacritic score: 78

I also thought the 3DS titles was one of the worst mainstream Mario titles ever produced. Wasn't bad, but had nothing really going for it. Very bland. It seems the series was already reach fatigue at this point as the community at large found this to be one of the lowest rated Mario titles as well.

https://i.imgtc.com/xgruEmK.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0prJu3pcfB4

https://www.metacritic.com/game/wii-u/new-super-mario-bros-u
metacritic score: 84

But when New Super mario bros U launched on the Wii U I was really impressed. I thought it was the closest the New Super Mario bros series ever got to the classics and that it came close. I had a real joy playing that one. However it seems the community didn't really agree with me here. Having it become the 2nd lowest rated NSMB game behind the 3DS title.

Given that, I was excited to play it again on the switch. But as many others have already pointed out, as I replay it I find that appreciation for the game I felt in 2012 just isn't here in 2019. Not sure why the change in opinion really, but while the game is still certainly superb for a 2D platformer, I can't say I am wowed by it. Having just recently replayed Super mario bros 3, I can't say NSMBU reached the same heights. It seems most reviewers largely agree. The deluxe version, while enjoyed, is not receiving a warm welcome. Series fatigue has definitely fully set in.

https://youtu.be/yb0ha_UQXFo

All in all, I have mixed feelings about the NSMB series as whole since I feel the quality of 2 of them are somewhat poor. And the other 2 I consider excellent Mario platformers but not legendary like the originals. I don't believe they'll go down in history as legends like their 8/16 bit peers.

how do you feel about the New Super Mario bros Series?
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User Info: doutforharambe

doutforharambe
4 weeks ago#2
The first 2 games were really good. Then the felt more rehashed after that. The games after the first 2 were decent, just more of the same. They felt like expansions of the same game. Not brand new games.
FDT

User Info: ROB45

ROB45
4 weeks ago#3
The original was great. The others, not so much.

User Info: ratsalkane

ratsalkane
4 weeks ago#4
Honestly despite the negative press I feel the latest New Super Mario Bros U is the best of the series. The problem is it's incremental improvements were not enough to save it from being more of the same.

the games aren't bad by any measure. But they sure aren't the classics their older brothers on the NES and SNES are. In 20 years people will still be talking about SMB 1-3 and world. The NSMB games won't be so fortunate.

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doutforharambe
4 weeks ago#5
ratsalkane posted...
Honestly despite the negative press I feel the latest New Super Mario Bros U is the best of the series. The problem is it's incremental improvements were not enough to save it from being more of the same.

the games aren't bad by any measure. But they sure aren't the classics their older brothers on the NES and SNES are. In 20 years people will still be talking about SMB 1-3 and world. The NSMB games won't be so fortunate.


I liked Super Luigi U way more than the base game. I just felt the base game played it too safe.
FDT

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mariosonic
4 weeks ago#6
doutforharambe posted...
ratsalkane posted...
Honestly despite the negative press I feel the latest New Super Mario Bros U is the best of the series. The problem is it's incremental improvements were not enough to save it from being more of the same.

the games aren't bad by any measure. But they sure aren't the classics their older brothers on the NES and SNES are. In 20 years people will still be talking about SMB 1-3 and world. The NSMB games won't be so fortunate.


I liked Super Luigi U way more than the base game. I just felt the base game played it too safe.


I feel the same. I enjoy Luigi U a lot more than the base game.

That being said, I always looked forward to the NSMB game releases. Played each one, and enjoyed each one. Well mostly, the 3DS one was pretty bland. But I never had any mind to replay them. Which I think says a lot. I've replayed the original Super mario games countless times, and enjoy doing so each time. But playing through the NSMB games once was enough for me.

For me, that probably speaks to why they don't achieve the same level of success as the originals.

User Info: Thechad

Thechad
4 weeks ago#7
To be fair, I feel many of you are voting based on Nostalgia. As someone who played NSMB DS and Wii before playing the NES titles I don't feel the NES titles have any added quality. If anything I enjoyed NSMB DS a little bit more.

Sure, Super mario bros NES did it first, and with more impact 20 years earlier, and that's why it will be rightfully remembered over the New Super mario titles. But to say it's objectfully better I don't feel is fair. If both games came out on the same day, I'd bet more people would prefer the DS title.

anyway, what the 8 bit titles did is legendary and practically saved the video game industry. So they are legendary. The NSMB titles did nothing legendary and so won't be as fondly remembered. But without the nostalgia goggles, they are just as fun in any case. I feel anyone who played the NES/SNES titles around the same time they played the NSMB titles would feel the same.

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the_NGW
4 weeks ago#8
The worst run the series has had in a long time, if ever. Bland and forgettable is the best compliment I can give them, with a small spattering of good level design. The art style is uninspired and got old fast, as bah did bah the bah bah music.
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User Info: Thechad

Thechad
4 weeks ago#9
the_NGW posted...
The art style is uninspired and got old fast, as bah did bah the bah bah music.


that's fair though, Whereas the original titles had unique music to each game, the New Super mario games had largely the same for over a decade. And it wasn't that good to begin with. The music was certainly subpar in comparison to the originals.

I disagree about the level design though. In particular mario U, it had some fairly eye pleasing levels. I don't see how the originals were any better?

User Info: DiscostewSM

DiscostewSM
4 weeks ago#10
ratsalkane posted...
Honestly despite the negative press I feel the latest New Super Mario Bros U is the best of the series. The problem is it's incremental improvements were not enough to save it from being more of the same.

the games aren't bad by any measure. But they sure aren't the classics their older brothers on the NES and SNES are. In 20 years people will still be talking about SMB 1-3 and world. The NSMB games won't be so fortunate.

I wholeheartedly agree with this. There was just so much to notice going from SMB 1-3 and world that each entry truly felt like new games. Heck, even in SMB 3 there are some levels that have you think a bit rather than simply running through it. With the NSMB games, there's just not so much different with each one, and honestly with the inclusion of co-op, I think the levels began to suffer. This is also a reason why I felt a little disappointed in SM3DW. Good game, but because of the co-op, I felt they had to lean towards designing the levels around that.
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