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User Info: M1Astray

M1Astray
1 year ago#1
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/new-lawsuit-against-ea-claims-that-fifa-ultimate-t/1100-6481023

Given gacha's use the same lootbox model as Fifa Ultimate and all that, how do y'all think this could pan out and impact FGO?

For those that want the long and short of the article, a class action in California is seeking damages of 5 million dollars because "lootboxes are random and you can spend real money, ergo casino-tier gambling!"
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User Info: Dishware

Dishware
1 year ago#2
Not convinced they are even capable of curbing EA. 5 million is also absolutely petty money for these companies. So zero.

User Info: Zaigou

Zaigou
1 year ago#3
Dishware posted...
Not convinced they are even capable of curbing EA. 5 million is also absolutely petty money for these companies. So zero.

Yeah, EA is still around despite years of controversy.

And FGO is owned by SONY (at least, the higher up the hierarchy you go) IIRC. Unless I am mistaken, SONY is far, far larger an entity than EA. No way they would ever allow one of their golden geese to be taken away.
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User Info: bdragan18

bdragan18
1 year ago#4
A legal challenge, in the US (which is not generally a consumer aligned region,) for what is a very paltry sum, which does not seem markedly different than any prior suit. On its own, I think it has a snowball's chance in hell of changing anything.
Eh.

User Info: Maxmilion

Maxmilion
1 year ago#5
nothing

User Info: hmmmmname

hmmmmname
1 year ago#6
In the US unfortunately not much, in Europe it likely depends on whether or not it's brought up to them.
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User Info: Goraishi

Goraishi
1 year ago#7
hmmmmname posted...
In the US unfortunately not much, in Europe it likely depends on whether or not it's brought up to them.

There isn't an official release in the EU is there? I'm assuming this kind of thing could be why.

Dishware posted...
Not convinced they are even capable of curbing EA. 5 million is also absolutely petty money for these companies. So zero.

I don't think they can win, but it isn't just the $5M. If they did win, it would set a legal precedent that it is gambling, and everyone else will jump in for their pound of flesh.

User Info: Hikari_Sword

Hikari_Sword
1 year ago#8
Goraishi posted...
There isn't an official release in the EU is there? I'm assuming this kind of thing could be why.

Really? I thought there's some crazy IP shannanigins involving Sherlock.

User Info: M1Astray

M1Astray
1 year ago#9
Goraishi posted...
I don't think they can win, but it isn't just the $5M. If they did win, it would set a legal precedent that it is gambling, and everyone else will jump in for their pound of flesh.
Yeah, and it'd probably lead to regulations that would see lootboxes outlawed in their entirety with that precedent set too.

Thing I found most interesting is that France ruled against the "you get something in every pull" argument but also didn't deem lootboxes as proper gambling (pulls had no actual real-world value).
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User Info: Arthaiin

Arthaiin
1 year ago#10
FIFA Ultimate and FGO are slightly different beasts.

FIFA Ultimate is a game that doesn't disclose actual chance numbers, only 'ball park figures.' We have actual numbers in FGO. Also, FGO flat out states there are micro-transactions IN the game. FIFA Ultimate doesn't. Third. FIFA Ultimate is marketed towards children, which is the core issue with loot boxes in the first place. FGO isn't really marketed towards children, even if children do get their hands on it some times.

FGO is also rated T for Teen, whereas FIFA Ultimate is rated E for Everyone.

You also have to PAY to play FIFA Ultimate, and then pay more for the lootpacks. FGO is free and the gacha system IS the way to pay for the game.

They're completely different beasts. The arguments that'd work against FIFA would just get laughed out of court against FGO because they're already complying with all/most necessary laws.

The biggest problem with loot boxes aren't that they exist, it's the marketing of them towards children. FGO isn't necessarily marketing towards children. If children get their hands on it, that's the fault of the parent.
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