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User Info: Alienshroom

Alienshroom
3 years ago#61
Dont these SJW know that normalizing pedophilia is whats next on the agenda? You might wanna go check Vox, CNN, and Huffington Post. How else are they going to learn to live with the muslims in Europe?

Anyway Marie could pass for under 18, its why everyone likes her, its why she is on the cover of the game, its why she was voted number 1. Why dont you go buy your worthless asses some plane tickets to the UK and protest in Rotherham if you give such a f*** about children and stop crying about a video game produced by the cleanest society on earth when you all live among the most vile.
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User Info: darkfire9430

darkfire9430
3 years ago#62
Y'all keep waving around MR's manufactured age as if that's proof of non-pedophilia. When at best, it's proof of law-abiding pedophilia.

You're attracted to a character who:
- Looks like a child
- Dresses like a child
- Sounds like a child
- Speaks like a child
- Acts like a child
Etc. The overwhelming number of people meeting these characteristics are children. In fact, these characteristics are what separate children from adults. You're attracted to the things that make children "children." That makes you a pedophile.

*However*, you slam on the brakes if the potential object of your attraction is under age. 14-year-old looking and acting like MR: No go. Exact same person with an earlier birthday: Full steam ahead. That proves you understand and respect the law. Which is really all we can ask of people.

User Info: eric_otness

eric_otness
3 years ago#63
Alienshroom posted...
Dont these SJW know that normalizing pedophilia is whats next on the agenda? You might wanna go check Vox, CNN, and Huffington Post. How else are they going to learn to live with the muslims in Europe?

Anyway Marie could pass for under 18, its why everyone likes her, its why she is on the cover of the game, its why she was voted number 1. Why dont you go buy your worthless asses some plane tickets to the UK and protest in Rotherham if you give such a f*** about children and stop crying about a video game produced by the cleanest society on earth when you all live among the most vile.


I'm not sure I'd call Japan the cleanest society, especially when, in the case of the Pokémon Anime, they did definitely depict the female characters as sex objects even when they were canonically 10 years old, and besides which, Japan is actually one of the biggest distributers of child porn: http://www.conservapedia.com/Atheistic_Japan_and_child_pornography

However, you are right about one thing: legalizing child porn is next on the SJW's radar whether they know it or not.

Y'all keep waving around MR's manufactured age as if that's proof of non-pedophilia. When at best, it's proof of law-abiding pedophilia.

You're attracted to a character who:
- Looks like a child
- Dresses like a child
- Sounds like a child
- Speaks like a child
- Acts like a child
Etc. The overwhelming number of people meeting these characteristics are children. In fact, these characteristics are what separate children from adults. You're attracted to the things that make children "children." That makes you a pedophile.

*However*, you slam on the brakes if the potential object of your attraction is under age. 14-year-old looking and acting like MR: No go. Exact same person with an earlier birthday: Full steam ahead. That proves you understand and respect the law. Which is really all we can ask of people.


My primary concern is if they are literally children, ie, even their age is indeed 10. I would consider those who hit it off to May, Dawn, Iris, Serena, heck, even Misty from the Pokémon Anime when they are explicitly 10 years old to be pedophiles, NOT those who crush on Marie Rose, who at least is 18 years of age.

At most, Marie Rose would qualify as a manchild, which still doesn't make those who crush on her pedophiles. It's like saying girls who crush on, say, Kefka Palazzo must automatically be pedophiles just because he acts like a child and speaks like a child (literally in this case, since in the Japanese version, he uses the pronoun "boku-chin" which is generally appropriate only for very young children). And bear in mind, Kefka's in his thirties, and it's extremely obvious in Dissidia Final Fantasy that he isn't even close to a child anyway (though since he is somewhat diminutive in Final Fantasy VI, he could look like a child in the latter game).

User Info: GnatB

GnatB
3 years ago#64
eric_otness posted...
Marie Rose specifically was stated to be 18 years old, though, so even those who do crush on her do not truly qualify as pedophiles. True pedophiles would, you know, be attracted to people who were literally underage, like, I don't know, those people who actually hit it on with May or Dawn or Serena from Pokémon (who are quite explicitly 10 years old). In fact, Masamitsu Hidaka would qualify as a pedophile since his interview made it VERY clear that he views the girls in Pokémon, all of whom are 10 or younger, as just being sexualized meat for the audience, and with May and Serena, it's extremely obvious due to their having massive breasts.


That's all well and good, except pedophilia is about pre/early pubescents. Somebody with massive breasts isn't a pre-early pubescent, regardless of age, and thus attraction to same isn't pedophilia.

Again. Age is irrelevant.

User Info: eric_otness

eric_otness
3 years ago#65
GnatB posted...
eric_otness posted...
Marie Rose specifically was stated to be 18 years old, though, so even those who do crush on her do not truly qualify as pedophiles. True pedophiles would, you know, be attracted to people who were literally underage, like, I don't know, those people who actually hit it on with May or Dawn or Serena from Pokémon (who are quite explicitly 10 years old). In fact, Masamitsu Hidaka would qualify as a pedophile since his interview made it VERY clear that he views the girls in Pokémon, all of whom are 10 or younger, as just being sexualized meat for the audience, and with May and Serena, it's extremely obvious due to their having massive breasts.


That's all well and good, except pedophilia is about pre/early pubescents. Somebody with massive breasts isn't a pre-early pubescent, regardless of age, and thus attraction to same isn't pedophilia.

Again. Age is irrelevant.


If age truly was irrelevant, then please explain why 13 years old is generally the age where one is considered a teen? Why is it that in most health books, its 13 years old where puberty kicks in? Sorry, but no, age is definitely relevant. You're just spewing the same crap that Sartre and de Beauvoir pushed to justify their having sex with underage people. Heck, what Foucault tried to say when justifying his sexual attraction to little boys. Sorry for being blunt, but when the schools and mainstream society make it very clear that puberty happens at age 13, when they become teenagers, it's pretty clear that a ten year old, even one that has breasts, is underage. To put it another way, anyone under 13 years of age are by definition children or kids or however you want to put it, pre-pubescent in other words. Those who are 13 to either 18, 19, or 21 years old is considered a teenager, and anyone who is either 18, 19, or 21 or up is considered an adult (the laws vary regarding when exactly adulthood begins).

User Info: darkfire9430

darkfire9430
3 years ago#66
eric_otness posted...
My primary concern is if they are literally children, ie, even their age is indeed 10. I would consider those who hit it off to May, Dawn, Iris, Serena, heck, even Misty from the Pokémon Anime when they are explicitly 10 years old to be pedophiles, NOT those who crush on Marie Rose, who at least is 18 years of age.

At most, Marie Rose would qualify as a manchild, which still doesn't make those who crush on her pedophiles. It's like saying girls who crush on, say, Kefka Palazzo must automatically be pedophiles just because he acts like a child and speaks like a child (literally in this case, since in the Japanese version, he uses the pronoun "boku-chin" which is generally appropriate only for very young children). And bear in mind, Kefka's in his thirties, and it's extremely obvious in Dissidia Final Fantasy that he isn't even close to a child anyway (though since he is somewhat diminutive in Final Fantasy VI, he could look like a child in the latter game).

Again, you're fixated on age to the exclusion of common sense. Virtually no one is attracted to a number. They are attracted to a person or a representation of a person. When literally everything about that representation signals adolescence, then they are attracted to adolescents. It's not rocket science here.

By your logic, anyone attracted to Nyo is a necrophiliac into desiccated corpses, because that's what 1000-year-olds would look like. Nonsense. Nyo fans are attracted to a representation that looks and acts like a woman, so they naturally perceive her as a woman. Her stated age of 1018 years is irrelevant.

Similarly by your logic, anyone attracted to Kasumi Alpha or Phase 4 is into toddlers, because they're both (at most) a few years old. Again, nonsense. Alpha and Phase 4 look and act like women, so they're perceived as women. Their stated ages are irrelevant.

So by the same token: Marie looks and acts like an adolescent. Thus she is perceived as an adolescent, just as Nyo/Alpha/Phase 4 are perceived as women. So a person into MR is into adolescents, same as a Nyo/Alpha/Phase 4 fan is into women. Their stated, made-up ages are irrelevant.

User Info: eric_otness

eric_otness
3 years ago#67
darkfire9430 posted...
eric_otness posted...
My primary concern is if they are literally children, ie, even their age is indeed 10. I would consider those who hit it off to May, Dawn, Iris, Serena, heck, even Misty from the Pokémon Anime when they are explicitly 10 years old to be pedophiles, NOT those who crush on Marie Rose, who at least is 18 years of age.

At most, Marie Rose would qualify as a manchild, which still doesn't make those who crush on her pedophiles. It's like saying girls who crush on, say, Kefka Palazzo must automatically be pedophiles just because he acts like a child and speaks like a child (literally in this case, since in the Japanese version, he uses the pronoun "boku-chin" which is generally appropriate only for very young children). And bear in mind, Kefka's in his thirties, and it's extremely obvious in Dissidia Final Fantasy that he isn't even close to a child anyway (though since he is somewhat diminutive in Final Fantasy VI, he could look like a child in the latter game).

Again, you're fixated on age to the exclusion of common sense. Virtually no one is attracted to a number. They are attracted to a person or a representation of a person. When literally everything about that representation signals adolescence, then they are attracted to adolescents. It's not rocket science here.

By your logic, anyone attracted to Nyo is a necrophiliac into desiccated corpses, because that's what 1000-year-olds would look like. Nonsense. Nyo fans are attracted to a representation that looks and acts like a woman, so they naturally perceive her as a woman. Her stated age of 1018 years is irrelevant.

Similarly by your logic, anyone attracted to Kasumi Alpha or Phase 4 is into toddlers, because they're both (at most) a few years old. Again, nonsense. Alpha and Phase 4 look and act like women, so they're perceived as women. Their stated ages are irrelevant.

So by the same token: Marie looks and acts like an adolescent. Thus she is perceived as an adolescent, just as Nyo/Alpha/Phase 4 are perceived as women. So a person into MR is into adolescents, same as a Nyo/Alpha/Phase 4 fan is into women. Their ages are irrelevant.


First of all, your Nyotengu example doesn't work because Nyotengu isn't even human to begin with, she's a Tengu, so normal human age limits do not apply to her. As far as Phase 4/Kasumi Alpha, they're clones who most likely had undergone rapid aging, so that's in the gray area as its debatable if they're even fully human (DOATEC treats them as living weapons, if anything). At most, you can refer to it as bestiality, and even that is debatable at best since they actually look human (ridiculously human in Nyo's case since Tengus before her were explicitly bestial in nature).

Second of all, Marie Rose, in the English versions at least, sounds pretty obviously like an adult woman from the pitch of her voice (I've heard plenty of prepubescent girls talk at church, and they generally don't sound that deep in terms of pitch). If anything, Honoka sounds more like a child. And her acting like a child is not the same as her actually BEING a child. Let me remind you that Kefka Palazzo from Final Fantasy VI acted like a child all the time (in the Japanese versions, he even used "Boku-Chin" as a pronoun, and that's reserved for little boys), and it's pretty obvious that he's an adult. Heck, Tingle behaved like a kid in Zelda, and it's extremely obvious with his facial hair that he's an adult. And let me point out Esther from the film Orphan. She looked and acted a lot like a little girl, yet in reality, she actually was a 30 year old, and she if anything exploited her youthful looks to do various serial killings. She's essentially Marie Rose if she was evil. The most you can call Marie Rose is a manchild, NOT an actual kid.

User Info: Hot955

Hot955
3 years ago#68
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Now I'm hungry. I'll get a pizza. Anybody wants a slice?
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User Info: MiIky

MiIky
3 years ago#69
GnatB posted...
That's all well and good, except pedophilia is about pre/early pubescents. Somebody with massive breasts isn't a pre-early pubescent, regardless of age, and thus attraction to same isn't pedophilia.Again. Age is irrelevant.

I think everyone in this thread is using pedophilia as an umbrella term to cover hebephilia as well.
Anyway, from my experience age is actually very relevant in terms of hebephilia. It's a huge part of the attraction (and I'd say it's likely it's the same in pedophilia but unless used as an umbrella term that doesn't fit Marie). It's something they love to be reminded of, I'd say it's very relevant.

Hot955 posted...
Yesterday I went shopping. I bought Bananas. They were 50% off. Great deal at my local supermarket. But then, when I was at home, I saw that one of them was rotten. Darn. And I so wanted to make a banana spilt.

That's what you get for having bad taste in fruits and desserts.

User Info: darkfire9430

darkfire9430
3 years ago#70
eric_otness posted...
First of all, your Nyotengu example doesn't work because Nyotengu isn't even human to begin with, she's a Tengu, so normal human age limits do not apply to her. As far as Phase 4/Kasumi Alpha, they're clones who most likely had undergone rapid aging, so that's in the gray area as its debatable if they're even fully human (DOATEC treats them as living weapons, if anything). At most, you can refer to it as bestiality, and even that is debatable at best since they actually look human (ridiculously human in Nyo's case since Tengus before her were explicitly bestial in nature).


Nyo/Alpha/Phase 4 fans are into bestiality? I hope you realize how ridiculous you sound here.

Let's try this: suppose tomorrow TN released a patch that changed Marie's age on the "start vacation" screen to 13. That's it: no change to MR's behavior, appearance, voice, etc. Literally the only thing that changed was a single number stored in the program code. Would you agree that anyone into MR, post-patch, was a pedophile?
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