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User Info: KoRnKoB

KoRnKoB
3 months ago#1
Hey all, I know this is a very common topic to be made but it seems Fallout 4 has had a lot of 'updates' lately that keep on breaking mods and such? I just wanted to make this topic as to avoid following any old guides or procedures, or pursuing any abandoned mods too (heard some mod authors are sick of the constant updating due to Bethesda's updating lol.)

So, I bought the GOTY edition or whatever it was called with all the DLC. Have this on PS4 but keep struggling to get into it with the limited mods available. I was mainly wanting to know what mods PC gamers would recommend downloading for the most part. I was going to get something for more body options, more hair styles, maybe more clothes and armor options. Also thinking I might get the mod that makes the gun-holding more authentic (lowered weapon mod I think it is called?)

I also wanted to know about the heavier mods; like the ones that really overhaul the game or parts of it. I hear there's an alternate start mod? Also wanted to know if there were any survival mods that were better than the ones available to console. I think Skyrim had one called Frostborne? It was a much better survival mode than anything Bethesda incorporated lol.

Oh, one more thing. I hear Fallout 4 is one of the more streamlined Bethesda games to mod. I remember having 2-3 programs for modding Skyrim... So far I only have the Nexus Mod Manager. Will I be needing anything else for FO4?

Thanks for any help!
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User Info: Evil_Geoff

Evil_Geoff
3 months ago#2
Mods that rely on the Fallout 4 Script Extender (http://f4se.silverlock.org/) break after major patches. They usually get that updated within a day or two of a patch release.

You can continue to use NMM, or you can use Mod Organizer, or Vortex, for handling your FO4 mods.

Use Load Order Optimization Tool (LOOT) after reading the STEP guide for general modding technique, it can help you identify and correct mod conflicts.

Use the Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.

After that - look at the most endorsed mods on Nexus. Compare the number of endorsements to the number of downloads for a mod. An endorsement rate around 10% is average. Much below 10% - the mod has issues. Much above? Folks are REALLY happy with the mod and are showing the love. You can search by category and sort by most downloaded or most endorsed.

Be willing to give newer mods a try, and be just as willing to uninstall them and move along if they don't fit what you are looking for.

Good luck and have fun!
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User Info: KoRnKoB

KoRnKoB
3 months ago#3
Thanks! Appreciate the reply, though I gotta say, I've mostly stuck to that method of checking 'most endorsed' and comparing downloads etc. Helped an awful lot with modding an older game like FO:NV!

Definitely going to get LOOT. Recall that being very useful for Skyrim. I think I may of hit a real roadblock on my modding endeavors though... Seems so many mods require CBBE, which suggests using Bodyslide and LooksMenu. Well, LooksMenu is apparently busted completely and hasn't been updated or fixed in a fair while.

I suppose for now I am looking to make do without it. Hopefully it doesn't affect anything too badly! I still remember when I did a texture change for Skyrim and forgot to do the same with armor and weapons... Oh boy, that was a mess trying to fix further down the track...

Out of curiosity, what mods do you use @Evil_Geoff ?
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User Info: Evil_Geoff

Evil_Geoff
3 months ago#4
This is my current load order as reported by LOOT:

0 0 Fallout4.esm
1 1 DLCRobot.esm
2 2 DLCworkshop01.esm
3 3 DLCCoast.esm
4 4 DLCworkshop02.esm
5 5 DLCworkshop03.esm
6 6 DLCNukaWorld.esm
7 7 DLCUltraHighResolution.esm
8 8 Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp
9 9 Homemaker.esm
10 a SpringCleaning.esm
11 b Snap'n Build.esm
12 c DarkerNights.esp
13 d DarkerNightsDetection.esp
14 e CBBE.esp
15 f BBS000-F04-Ultimate-DEF_UI.esp
16 10 NoAffinityCooldown.esp
17 11 NoNegativeAffinityNof***s.esp
18 12 More Where That Came From Diamond City.esp
19 13 Elvani's Track Pack - FIX.esp
20 14 Raider PA New Mods.esp
21 15 UniversityPointSettlementSPE.esp
22 16 SpringCleaningCompatibilityPatch.esp
23 17 OWR_CraftableDecor.esp
24 18 OWR_CraftableDecor_CW.esp
25 19 Homemaker - Greenhouse and Bunker Disabler.esp
26 1a Homemaker - Streetlights Use Passive Power.esp
27 1b Homemaker - Unlocked Institute Objects.esp
28 1c homemaker_workshop03_patch.esp
29 1d SC_ExpandedScrapList.esp
30 1e Eli_Immersive Coffee Mod 9000 GTX French Roast.esp
31 1f Insignificant Object Remover.esp
32 20 ManufacturingExtended.esp
33 21 ManufacturingExtendedFH.esp
34 22 Repaired Roofs.esp
35 23 mso_sms.esp
36 24 SettlementMenuManager.esp
37 25 Eli_Pride.esp
38 26 PrideShirts.esp
39 27 Eli_Pride 76.esp
40 28 oDo_Pride2k18_Flags.esp
41 29 AirportWorkBench.esp
42 2a OWR.esp
43 2b OWR_AOC.esp
44 2c SalvageBeacons.esp
45 2d AlootHomePlate.esp
46 2e MechanistsLair_V1.esp

The OWR's are Old World Radio - Boston mods available on the Nexus.
The mso_sms.esp is Settlement Management Software, also on the Nexus.
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User Info: wanderz

wanderz
3 months ago#5
you can avoid the problem with updates very very easily.. DON'T UPDATE!!!

if you are launching the game with the script extender (which you would be, or you wouldn't have a problem with updates anyway) then all you do is set the game to "only update when i launch the game" since you don't launch the game itself thru steam it won't update. (unless steam goes crazy, you change the setting, or click on the update button in steam)
you can go months without updating and not have any problems. (the Custom Content even still works, so you can get the weekly free items)

as for mod suggestions:
backpacks of the commonwealth, adds backpacks and satchels that of course add to your carry weight, and are upgradeable in a few ways.
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/29447

Lucky critter: allows you to get crit hits when not using vats.. they are realistically rare, based on your luck skill
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/30450

corpse cleaner: allows you to scrap corpses.. for most you need to buy different books to learn how to do dissect different species. (there's about 7 categories / books to buy) also allows you to remove the annoying dirt piles from moles etc that pop up in your settlements like red rocket that don't delete themselves.
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/21262

shakujin's better warning for settlement attacks: pops up a warning when one of your settlements is attacked, so you don't miss it. you can still ignore it if you want tho.
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/4106

better settlers: adds more variety to the appearance of the random settlers your settlements attract. (check the requirements, i believe it requires one or two other mods as well)
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/4772

Eli's armor compendium: adds more clothing / armor variety to well, everyone.
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/22431

achievement enabler: allows you to get achievements with mods active.
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/12465

junk scrapper: scraps everything you put into it.. very convenient when you find you have 20+ of multiple items.. just stick them in the scrapper and ding.. it breaks everything down... take it out and store the components. it uses the milk vending machines model (some are changed, some not) conveniently there is one at red rocket.
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/29086
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User Info: Conner4REAL

Conner4REAL
3 months ago#6
Updating is a pain in the butt. All these monthly patches are really just so bethnet can hoc their latest cc crap.
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User Info: CourtofOwls

CourtofOwls
2 months ago#7
KoRnKoB posted...
more body options, more hair styles, maybe more clothes and armor options.


body options are CBBE/bodyslide/outfit studio,hope you figured out that stuff
looksmenu isn't busted for me,weird to see it's apparently busted for a bunch of others

the most popular hair: http://fo4-mischairstyle.tumblr.com/post/139169515871/mischairstyle16-download-47-new-hairs-for-male

clothes & armor,well eye of the beholder and all that
sirius assault suit is neat: https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/13572
and the courser strigidae: https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/28009

I also wanted to know about the heavier mods; like the ones that really overhaul the game or parts of it. I hear there's an alternate start mod? Also wanted to know if there were any survival mods that were better than the ones available to console. I think Skyrim had one called Frostborne? It was a much better survival mode than anything Bethesda incorporated lol.


there's start me up which isn't just an alternate start but (optionally) changes most of the stuff about shaun being your kid too:
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/18946/

the biggest overhaul is also the main survival mod,it's called frost:
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/18898/

there's atomguard if you want vampires:
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/29970/

outcasts & remnants: https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/21469 (this is some fun sidequests)
+ project valkyire: https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/28085 (this has the significant game changes but needs the first mod)

the NAC weather overhaul:
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/7657

and then a graphics overhaul...

first install this: http://enbdev.com/download_mod_fallout4.htm

then you can go with PRC for simple customization/options:
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/6796/

or film workshop if you really want to get into things:
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/24660/
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User Info: thetraveler

thetraveler
2 months ago#8
Atomic beauty. If you plan on playing a female and want some eye candy.
I'd like to name this new style sheet "The Homer", after his failed attempt at designing a car.

User Info: VermilionX

VermilionX
1 month ago#9
oh wow, i just goty

and looking to play modded

so this game is still constantly getting updated and it ruins mods?

how often do bethesda patch this game?
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User Info: Evil_Geoff

Evil_Geoff
1 month ago#10
The last patch that required an F4SE update (build: 0.6.15) was almost a year ago, to game version 1.10.80

If you are running the Steam version of the game, all _current_ and maintained mods should be good to go. Check the "Last Updated" or "Last Upload" dates on any mods you want to use.

Mods that were uploaded BEFORE April of 2018 or haven't been updated since then may, or may not, still work.
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