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herocomplex00 posted...
My water magic relics are currently Strago OSB and Meia LMR. Considering dipping into my open Archives for Meia BSB (Book 9) and Strago BSB (Book 8) to take advantage of those relics. Relatively little competition against Meia in Book 9, and I'd only be missing on a couple +element gear options for taking Strago (earth fist, water rod, earth rod, basically), so it's a lot of Archive picks for one fight, but not the dumbest idea...

Wow, I honestly kinda forgot about those. Might be just what I need. Same for me on the choices, I'd be tempted to take Strago's BSB because it seems better overall, but realistically Meia's BSB is the only relatively useful relic remaining in Book IX for me.

Edit: There's also FF5 Gogo's BSB in Book VIII, seems good for this too. ...But like I said there's other stuff too, ice mage BSBs for instance.
What a fuddy duddy.
(edited 1 year ago)

User Info: raoxi

raoxi
1 year ago#22
ShinUltima posted...
UNlike physical, my water magic is pretty lacking.

Strago LMR
Rydia BSSB2 (imperil)

Otherwise, I'm looking at fielding Vivi w/ USB, OK w/ BSSB/LMR, and Elarra w/ USB here. Have Rikku chain, so she can dance and spam Shooter to build chain probably. Perhaps those 4 with a dived Rydia could eke out a win?

I have a feeling I could also probably grind this out with a physical team. We'll see.

@ShinUltima sounds like sub30 material

User Info: JDX22

JDX22
1 year ago#23
Can’t believe I’m asking this... what all does Gigi (V)’s BSB C1 mimic? I’m planning tidus csb, OK mUSB, Vivi USB, Elarra USB. But neither Rydia nor Rikku for imperil can dispel his barrier....
FFRK: e19o
JDX22 posted...
Can’t believe I’m asking this... what all does Gigi (V)’s BSB C1 mimic? I’m planning tidus csb, OK mUSB, Vivi USB, Elarra USB. But neither Rydia nor Rikku for imperil can dispel his barrier....

Short answer: The last used normal ability. SBs, BSB cmds, and jumps can't be mimicked.

Long answer:
Mimic:
- Certain SB or burst abilities can allow you to use Mimic
- Effect of Mimic differs between various SB and burst abilities
- "Mimic" will replicate the last viable action used by the party, including the Mimic user himself (Note 1)
- The action that is mimicked will consider the stats of the Mimic user
- Any viable action can be mimicked, even abilities that the user is unable to use originally
- If no viable action can be mimicked, Mimic will fail and a fail action will be used instead (Note 2)
- "Mimic" has a proc rate, which defer between SB and burst abilities. If it fails to proc, the fail action will be used (Note 3)
- In the event of a "Continue", the history of the last mimicable action will be erased
- If you proceed through rounds, the history will not be reset

Note 1: Not applicable to Jumps, SB, RW, Burst Commands & Counters
Note 2: Fail action for Gogo5 and Gogo6's default SB and attack command is a single-target physical attack (1 x 1.50, PHY)
Note 3: Gogo5 and Gogo6's default SB has a 50% success rate. Their BSB attack commands have a 100% success rate

Notes:
- If the mimicked action is magical and the user is Silenced, the mimic is still a success but there will be no effect
- If the user has Quick Magic status and the viable action is magical, quick cast won't be applicable
- This is because the SB/burst ability is under "Special" school till the point of activation
- SB increment will depend on the mimicked action
- Targetting method is based on the mimicked action. There may be cases where the target will change even if you manually target
- If the last viable action is an "Attack -> X" move triggered by a RM, the "X" move will be mimicked
- Mimicked action cannot be dualcasted, even if you have the appropriate RM/LM equipped
What a fuddy duddy.

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JDX22
1 year ago#25
Relm_Arrowny_87 posted...
Long answer:

Bless your heart, Relm! But in a northern way, where I mean it. Exactly what I couldn’t find easily in the happypluto. Or you know, the actual game.
FFRK: e19o

User Info: herocomplex00

herocomplex00
1 year ago#26
Relm_Arrowny_87 posted...
herocomplex00 posted...
My water magic relics are currently Strago OSB and Meia LMR. Considering dipping into my open Archives for Meia BSB (Book 9) and Strago BSB (Book 8) to take advantage of those relics. Relatively little competition against Meia in Book 9, and I'd only be missing on a couple +element gear options for taking Strago (earth fist, water rod, earth rod, basically), so it's a lot of Archive picks for one fight, but not the dumbest idea...

Wow, I honestly kinda forgot about those. Might be just what I need. Same for me on the choices, I'd be tempted to take Strago's BSB because it seems better overall, but realistically Meia's BSB is the only relatively useful relic remaining in Book IX for me.

Edit: There's also FF5 Gogo's BSB in Book VIII, seems good for this too. ...But like I said there's other stuff too, ice mage BSBs for instance.
I know, right? Those two went from “technically okay” options to serious considerations for 5* magicite. I’ve been gradually filling in relic niches, so Meia does seem more useful than the non-dupes in II/III/IV, even if they actually also offer some rare earth and water magic.

For Book VIII, Gogo’s rod is definitely a thing. I am not personally sold on it as an actual BSB for a Belias, as Strago’s OSB makes him a better option for me, but nowhere else to get an easy +water mage weapon.
I got a Day 1 Sub30 on Belias

https://i.imgtc.com/AQJhRBg.jpg

Setup

Rydia USB2/BSB2 Ogopogo/Lunar Leviathan LM-enwater LMR, dualcast
Strago Chain/OSB/BSB (didn't use) shellga/Voltech LM-more water damage, random heal
OK mUSB Entrust/chain wataja LM-instant cast 2/dual cast BM
Rikku USB2 steal power/Sapphire Bullet LM-just the legend dive ones which were useless in this fight.
Elarra USB/BSB allegro/curada LM-Bard heal dualcast White Magic
https://i.imgur.com/6AevF0Y.gif
LOL!!!! I hope that's a joke....names don't get more n00bish than that
(edited 1 year ago)

User Info: ZeroQ8

ZeroQ8
1 year ago#28
Not stable at all

https://youtu.be/gDNJCDqjwl0

Alright done farming this guy

Time for phe... I mean coffee, damn roads are closed :/
(edited 1 year ago)

User Info: Kizzomeau

Kizzomeau
1 year ago#29
I think I have literally 0 chance of beating this right now. Elarra USB from dream select will help all of my clears but it won;t be enough to tackle this.

User Info: raoxi

raoxi
1 year ago#30
@KnightLordST @ffrkowaway @sarothias @jagusto

day1 belias somehow. 26.75s. some above average dc luck.

Tidus CSB R3 PC, R4 SB, Mako
Aria USB, LMR1, R2 ACM, R4 Curada, TGC RM
Alphi SSB, R4 Ogo, R4 LL, DC RM
Vivi USB, LMR1, R4 V, R4 Cja 30% Dmg
Quistis USB, LMR1, R4 Cga, Protectga, Mogs
RW Wall

Quistis is a fine poverty ok mUSB+Lmr...
(edited 1 year ago)
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