FFT-0 Outsiders & Shapeshifter Banners Relic Draw Topic

  • Topic Archived
You're browsing the GameFAQs Message Boards as a guest. Sign Up for free (or Log In if you already have an account) to be able to post messages, change how messages are displayed, and view media in posts.
  1. Boards
  2. Final Fantasy Record Keeper
  3. FFT-0 Outsiders & Shapeshifter Banners Relic Draw Topic

User Info: SolitaireD

SolitaireD
5 months ago#1
Plan for these banners - Results (159 votes)
100 Gems/5 Mythrils on both banners
11.95% (19 votes)
19
100 Gems/5 Mythrils on one banner
2.52% (4 votes)
4
Less than 50 Mythrils between both banners
1.26% (2 votes)
2
One 11-pull on Banner 1
31.45% (50 votes)
50
Two or more 11-pulls on Banner 1
29.56% (47 votes)
47
One 11-pull on Banner 2
0% (0 votes)
0
Two or More 11-pulls on Banner 2
1.26% (2 votes)
2
One 11-pull on Banner 1 & 2
1.26% (2 votes)
2
More than 100 Mythrils between both banners
3.14% (5 votes)
5
Skipping both banners entirely
17.61% (28 votes)
28
This poll is now closed.
--------------------------------------------------

King's USB, "Endless Waltz":
- En-Lightning for 25 seconds
- ATK & DEF +30% to user for 25 seconds; ID: 611
- Machinist Ability Double to user for 15 seconds

--------------------------------------------------

Cinque's USB, "Whirling Mace":
- En-Earth for 25 seconds
- Heavy Ability Boost to user for 15 seconds
- Heavy Charge Booster to user for 15 seconds

Heavy Charge Booster: Actions that provide Heavy Charge give +2 Heavy instead of +1

*Basically only 4* Heavy Charge, 5* Grand Charge & Cinque's LM2

--------------------------------------------------
3DS FC: 2809-9061-6615
JP FFRK (QT3rB): All utility except Runic and Astra.

User Info: SolitaireD

SolitaireD
5 months ago#2
All stats are L20 (L25 for USB/OSB) before realm synergy. Credits to Enlir for SB and relic details.


OUTSIDERS BANNER RELICS #1

King's Outsiders (6* Gun w/ Lightning boost; 164 ATK)
[USB "Endless Waltz", +10 ATK upon Mastery]
12 single-target Lightning/NE ranged physical attacks, En-Lightning, ATK & DEF +30%* and Machinist Ability Double to user (12 x 0.58)
*ID: 611
Foreseeable Return: Seven/Sice
(SB Animation: https://ffrk-movie.static.sp.mbga.jp/soul_strike/16000700/20171124_oAo57CFVHhA.mp4)

Cinque's Shock Hammer (6* Hammer w/ Earth boost; 180 ATK)
[USB "Whirling Mace", +10 ATK upon Mastery]
10 single-target Earth/Wind physical attacks, En-Earth, Heavy Ability Boost & Heavy Charge Booster to user (10 x 0.71)
Foreseeable Return: Seven/Sice
(SB Animation: https://ffrk-movie.static.sp.mbga.jp/soul_strike/16000800/20171124_PGZbzgdnppY.mp4)

Rem's Ogrenyxes (6* Dagger w/ Holy boost; 122 ATK / 130 MAG / 176 MND)
[OSB "Cleansing Flame", +10 MND upon Mastery]
Single-target Holy/Fire Overstrike white magic attack, higher multiplier if exploiting weakness (1 x 39.06/44.94)
Foreseeable Return: None
(SB Animation: https://ffrk-movie.static.sp.mbga.jp/soul_strike/16000500/20171124_v1oaBbCBE1k.mp4)

Rem's Argentic Daggers (6* Dagger; 122 ATK / 130 MAG / 174 MND)
[USB "Manalchemy", +10 MND upon Mastery]
10 single-target Holy/Dark white magic attacks, En-Holy, High Quick Cast 1 & EX "Dominion" to user (10 x 1.80)
EX "Dominion": MND +50%, DEF & RES -15%, and High Quick Cast 1 after exploiting weakness
Foreseeable Return: None
(SB Animation: https://ffrk-movie.static.sp.mbga.jp/soul_strike/16000500/20170811_BIOles3lVlA.mp4)


Cinque's Skull Crusher (Hammer; 147 ATK)
[BSB "Gaia Pulse", +10 ATK upon Mastery]
6 AOE Earth/NE ranged physical attacks, En-Earth, Burst Mode (6 x 0.96)
Attack -> Gaia Swing: 3 single-target Earth/NE physical attacks, Heavy Damage +15% for 3 turns (3 x 0.56, Heavy)
Defend -> Gaia Break: Single-target Earth/NE ranged physical attacks, DEF -40%* (1 x 1.79, Heavy)
*ID: 604
Foreseeable Return: Seven/Sice
(SB Animation: https://ffrk-movie.static.sp.mbga.jp/soul_strike/16000800/20171124_v7TLfjkABGM.mp4)

King's Guise (Light Armor w/ Lightning resist; 17 ATK / 119 DEF / 119 RES)
[BSB "Magazine Blast", +10 ATK upon Mastery]
12 single-target Lightning/Fire ranged physical attacks, En-Lightning, Burst Mode (12 x 0.53)
Attack -> Multitask: 4 single-target Lightning/Fire ranged physical attacks, 5 hits if exploiting weakness (4/5 x 0.51, Machinist)
Defend -> Quick Shot: Single-target Lightning/Fire ranged physical attacks, Instant Machinist 2 (1 x 1.85, Machinist)
Foreseeable Return: Seven/Sice
(SB Animation: https://ffrk-movie.static.sp.mbga.jp/soul_strike/16000700/20171124_u1VVLmBgTV0.mp4)

--------------------------------------------------
3DS FC: 2809-9061-6615
JP FFRK (QT3rB): All utility except Runic and Astra.

User Info: SolitaireD

SolitaireD
5 months ago#3
OUTSIDERS BANNER RELICS #2

Rem's Guise (Light Armor w/ Holy boost; 17 MAG / 117 DEF / 17 MND / 117 RES)
[BSB "Siphon Delta", +10 MND upon Mastery]
8 AOE Holy/Dark white magic attacks, En-Holy & Smart Ether 1 to user, Burst Mode (8 x 1.68)
Attack -> Drain Conversion: 4 single-target Holy/Dark white magic attacks, h60 heal to user (4 x 2.35, White Magic)
Defend -> Barrier Conversion: Magic Blink 1 & White Magic Damage +15% for 3 turns to user (White Magic)
Foreseeable Return: Seven/Sice
(SB Animation: https://ffrk-movie.static.sp.mbga.jp/soul_strike/16000500/20170811_PlejjY9RR64.mp4)

Ace's Summer Uniform (Light Armor w/ Fire resist; 17 MAG / 115 DEF / 115 RES)
[BSB "Firaga RF", +10 MAG upon Mastery]
8 single-target Fire/NE magic attacks, Instant Cast, Physical Blink 1 to party, Burst Mode (8 x 1.88)
Attack -> Fire BOM: 4 single-target Fire/NE magic attacks, 0.825s CT, 5 hits if user is in front row (4/5 x 1.96, Black Magic)
Defend -> Fire SHG: 2 AOE Fire/NE magic attacks, MAG +30% & RES -30%* (2 x 3.90, Black Magic)
*ID: 6014
Foreseeable Return: Library of Guidance?
(SB Animation: https://ffrk-movie.static.sp.mbga.jp/soul_strike/16000100/20170224_cNZvidMMb4w.mp4)


Cinque's Dominion Helmet (Hat w/ Earth resist; 17 ATK / 88 DEF / 28 MAG / 130 RES / 27 MND)
[LMR "Chestnut Braid", +10 ATK upon Mastery]
En-Earth for 25 seconds at the start of battle
Foreseeable Return: Seven/Sice

King's Platinum Gloves (Bracer; 34 ATK / 99 DEF / 18 MAG / 95 RES / 18 MND)
[LMR "Depths Within", +10 ATK upon Mastery]
En-Lightning for 25 seconds at the start of battle
Foreseeable Return: Seven/Sice

Ace's Flame Armlet (Bracer w/ Fire boost; 24 ATK / 98 DEF / 28 MAG / 94 RES / 18 MND)
[LMR "Chocobond", +10 MAG upon Mastery]
En-Fire for 25 seconds at the start of battle
Foreseeable Return: None

Rem's Lunar Armlet (Bracer w/ Paralysis resist; 24 ATK / 99 DEF / 18 MAG / 95 RES / 28 MND)
[LMR "Saint's Fire", +10 MND upon Mastery]
When using Holy abilities, 50% chance to chase with single-target Holy/Fire/NE white magic attack (1 x 5.05, White Magic)
Foreseeable Return: None


King's Twin Magnums (Gun; 132 ATK)
[SSB "Trigger Finger", +10 ATK upon Mastery]
6 AOE Lightning/NE ranged physical attacks, Instant Cast, Imperil Lightning (6 x 0.87)
Foreseeable Return: None
(SB Animation: https://ffrk-movie.static.sp.mbga.jp/soul_strike/16000700/20171124_Jtd9F07VfDs.mp4)

Cinque's Mythril Bangle (Bracer; 34 ATK / 99 DEF / 18 MAG / 95 RES / 18 MND)
[SSB "Earthquake (Type-0)", +10 ATK upon Mastery]
6 AOE Earth/Wind physical attacks, Hyper Break* (6 x 1.11)
*ID: 630
Foreseeable Return: None
(SB Animation: https://ffrk-movie.static.sp.mbga.jp/soul_strike/16000800/20171124_sSnFmrFFyco.mp4)

--------------------------------------------------
3DS FC: 2809-9061-6615
JP FFRK (QT3rB): All utility except Runic and Astra.

User Info: SolitaireD

SolitaireD
5 months ago#4
SHAPESHIFTER BANNER RELICS #1

Nine's Shapeshifter (6* Spear; 181 ATK)
[USB "Whirling Lance", +10 ATK upon Mastery]
10 single-target Wind/NE jump attacks, Imperil Wind, ATK & DEF +30%* and Wild Lance to user (10 x 0.71)
Wild Lance: After using Dragoon abilities, chases with single-target Wind/NE ranged physical attack + 35% chance to inflict minor Imperil Wind (1 x 1.20, Dragoon)
*ID: 611
Foreseeable Return: None
(SB Animation: https://ffrk-movie.static.sp.mbga.jp/soul_strike/16000300/20171124_eCFw3Su7lfU.mp4)

Machina's Clockwork Blades (6* Sword; 181 ATK)
[OSB "Stunning Slash", +10 ATK upon Mastery]
Single-target Earth/Dark Overstrike physical attack, multiplier is dependent on number of Spellblade abilities used (1 x 10.50~14.50*)
*Formula: (1/(1+exp(-X*(3/10)))*2-1)*4+10.50; Minimum is 10.50, maximum at 14.50, 3 uses give 12.19
Foreseeable Return: None
(SB Animation: https://ffrk-movie.static.sp.mbga.jp/soul_strike/16000400/20171124_cMQzu3M7CwM.mp4)

Queen's Claymore (6* Sword; 181 ATK)
[OSB "Gate of Destiny", +10 ATK upon Mastery]
Single-target Lightning/Dark Overstrike physical attack, higher multiplier if exploiting weakness (1 x 11.16/12.84)
Foreseeable Return: None
(SB Animation: https://ffrk-movie.static.sp.mbga.jp/soul_strike/16000600/20171124_4d0OYIEH-sg.mp4)

Queen's Flamberge (6* Sword; 179 ATK)
[USB "Divine Judgment Blade", +10 ATK upon Mastery]
10 single-target Lightning/Dark physical attacks, En-Lightning, ATK & DEF +30%* and Quick Spellblade to user (10 x 0.71)
*ID: 611
Foreseeable Return: None
(SB Animation: https://ffrk-movie.static.sp.mbga.jp/soul_strike/16000600/20170811_BkM-InHo6IE.mp4)

--------------------------------------------------
3DS FC: 2809-9061-6615
JP FFRK (QT3rB): All utility except Runic and Astra.

User Info: SolitaireD

SolitaireD
5 months ago#5
SHAPESHIFTER BANNER RELICS #2

Deuce's Akademeia Uniform (Light Armor; 17 MAG / 115 DEF / 17 MND / 115 RES)
[BSB "Concerto", +10 MND upon Mastery]
h55 heal and ATK & MAG +30%* to party, Burst Mode
Attack -> Cure ff: Single-target h105 heal, Instant Cast (White Magic)
Defend -> Healing Melody: h25 heal to party (White Magic)
*ID: 610
Foreseeable Return: None
(SB Animation: https://ffrk-movie.static.sp.mbga.jp/soul_strike/16000200/20170224_jCuujJwOL0U.mp4)

Queen's Regal Crown (Hat; 17 ATK / 88 DEF / 28 MAG / 129 RES / 27 MND)
[BSB "Mana Sphere", +10 ATK upon Mastery]
8 single-target Lightning/Dark ranged physical attacks, Critical Chance +50% to party, Burst Mode (8 x 0.83)
Attack -> Thunder Judgment: 3 single-target Lightning/Dark physical attacks, Spellblade Damage +15% for 3 turns (3 x 0.65, Spellblade)
Defend -> Mana Spark: 2 AOE Lightning/Dark ranged physical attacks, ATK +30% & DEF -30%* (2 x 0.70, Spellblade)
*ID: 6001
Foreseeable Return: Seven/Sice
(SB Animation: https://ffrk-movie.static.sp.mbga.jp/soul_strike/16000600/20170811_-OeF5QyhDBs.mp4)

Machina's Bolt Rapiers (Sword; 145 ATK)
[BSB "Cyclone Drive", +10 ATK upon Mastery]
8 single-target Earth/Dark physical attacks, 30% Stoneskin to party, Burst Mode (8 x 0.83)
Attack -> Earth Drive: 3 single-target Earth/Dark physical attacks, Spellblade Damage +15% for 3 turns (3 x 0.65, Spellblade)
Defend -> Fear Field: 30% Stoneskin to user (White Magic)
Foreseeable Return: None
(SB Animation: https://ffrk-movie.static.sp.mbga.jp/soul_strike/16000400/20170811_l4EkAKw_j_g.mp4)

Nine's Javelin (Spear w/ RS Wind boost; 139 ATK)
[BSB "Class Zero Basher-in-Chief", +10 ATK upon Mastery]
8 single-target Wind/NE jump attacks, En-Wind, Burst Mode (8 x 0.83)
Attack -> Tornado Lance: 4 single-target Wind/NE physical attacks, higher multiplier if exploiting weakness (4 x 0.48/0.60, Combat)
Defend -> Cyclonic Blast: 2 AOE Wind/NE physical attacks, ATK +30% & DEF -30%* (2 x 0.65, Combat)
*ID: 6001
Foreseeable Return: Library of Guidance?
(SB Animation: https://ffrk-movie.static.sp.mbga.jp/soul_strike/16000300/20170224_Ms6w8_j4_os.mp4)


Queen's Guise (Light Armor w/ Lightning boost; 17 ATK / 117 DEF / 117 RES)
[LMR "Calculated Craft", +10 ATK upon Mastery]
25% chance to Dualcast Lightning abilities
Foreseeable Return: None

Machina's Platinum Bangle (Bracer; 34 ATK / 98 DEF / 18 MAG / 94 RES / 18 MND)
[LMR "Power Hungry", +10 ATK upon Mastery]
En-Earth for 25 seconds at the start of battle
Foreseeable Return: None

Nine's Heavy Lance (Spear; 139 ATK)
[LMR "Dizzying Leap", +10 ATK upon Mastery]
When using Jump attacks, 20% chance to inflict minor Imperil Wind
Foreseeable Return: None

Deuce's Feathered Cap (Hat; 28 MAG / 86 DEF / 37 MND / 125 RES)
[LMR "Eye for Detail", +10 MND upon Mastery]
Stat Buff Duration +30%
Foreseeable Return: None

Rem's Gold Hairpin (Hat; 28 MAG / 88 DEF / 37 MND / 129 RES)
[LMR "Gentle Spirit", +10 MND upon Mastery]
MND +1% with each White Magic hit, up to 25%
Foreseeable Return: None


Machina's Guise (Light Armor w/ Earth boost; 17 ATK / 117 DEF / 117 RES)
[SSB "Slayer of Fear", +10 ATK upon Mastery]
RES +100%*, Critical Damage +50% & Haste to party
*ID: 607
Foreseeable Return: None
(SB Animation: https://ffrk-movie.static.sp.mbga.jp/soul_strike/16000400/20170811_nScjHaffT-Y.mp4)

--------------------------------------------------
3DS FC: 2809-9061-6615
JP FFRK (QT3rB): All utility except Runic and Astra.

User Info: SolitaireD

SolitaireD
5 months ago#6
Outsiders Banner Overview

Outsiders:
Absolutely amazing. Just got this in JP recently myself, absolutely amazing. Ability Double is indeed the most OP utility.
King himself has Instant Cast 3 LM2 so you can get a couple of Spark Offerings in before unleashing Spark or Tempest Trigger Happy.
His LM1 requires him to equip Guns for more damage, and this Gun has Lightning boost too.
6-hit Tempest Snipe is not only excellent in Chain building, the damage is glorious as well.
With a Chain/Imperil, you can even use this in Fire & Ice teams too!

Shock Hammer:
Raw power from this USB is guaranteed.
Heavy is also the only school so far with an Overstrike ability.
Her LM2 interacts perfectly with this USB's Heavy Booster.
A 50% chance you get +1 Heavy Charge after using a Heavy ability, USB makes it 50% to give +2 Charge.
In other words, 50% chance you can get a 8-hit Gigant Swing or 7.0x multiplier Stone Press every turn. Heck the other side of the coin gives better multiplier than Grand Charge.
Don't forget about the En-Earth & Heavy Ability Boost from the USB as well.
Raw freaking power that even scoffs at 5* Quetzalcoatl's defenses.
It might not get you sub10~15s, but it can damn well get you a sub30s.

Ogrenyxes:
Holy boosting MND dagger that every character can equip, which also benefit physical Hastega providers.
Also the only WHT Overstrike in the game for now and OSBs are important in 5* Magicites.
USB+OSB combination is much more potent than Hope too.

Argentic Daggers:
What is more important in the speed game than a character that excels in speedy ability spam?
I'm still banking on the guess that the first Holy Gen 2 magic chain will be MND +50% and not Mag. Because Minwu/Rem/Arc is far stronger than Hope/Yuna.
Rem excels in Chain building plus this USB gives her En-Holy.
Rapidly exploiting weakness also mean fast SB build up, more burst damage if you have her OSB.

Skull Crusher/King's Guise:
Poverty option and worthless with their USB.
They are actually really great for a BSB, just vastly overshadowed.
King BSB's opening has 12-hits, and the commands complement ability spam.
A dived Cinque can get free Charges out of her commands, the first one even provides damage boost.

--------------------------------------------------
3DS FC: 2809-9061-6615
JP FFRK (QT3rB): All utility except Runic and Astra.

User Info: SolitaireD

SolitaireD
5 months ago#7
Outsiders Banner Overview

Rem's Guise:
If you ask me if there will be a future for this BSB, I will say absolutely no way.
Well the unbelievable happened.
Boundless Yiazmat. 5 million gil per clear. Very easily to defeat if you solo him.
Best character to solo? Rem BSB+LM2. You can just autobattle most of the time, its that easy.
Ultimate SB for a future Boundless boss. Add USB to the mix and you have access to the best ATM in the game.

Ace's Summer Uniform:
We all know it is his best SB, and he is one of the very few mages with Instant Cast 3 LM.
Already top tier among the BSB tier, and this has been seen in poverty 5* Behemoth King setups.
Physical Blink is god there if you lack super OP DPS. Ace himself has Titan for damage and Chainstarter/Quick Hit for SB building.

Dominion Helmet/Platinum Gloves:
King & Cinque's awesomeness only starts after you have activated their USBs.
So these En-Element LMRs will make them useful for the early parts of the fight.

Flame Armlet/Lunar Armlet:
These LMRs are so much more valuable than the above two.
Ace's pretty much bury his USB's coffin even deeper into the ground.
Rem's is also her proper LM1, similar to Zack that 1-hit chase is yummy when stacked up.

Twin Magnums:
Instant Imperil for a character with Instant Cast 3 LM, Wrath & Spark Offering access.
It is easily a poor-man's Chain substitute and is already seen in 5* Famfrit/Geosgaeno setups.

Mythril Bangle:
Dud of the banner but at least its a Hyper Break.


Conclusion: Hindsight is 20/20, almost never is there a banner where foresight has such a enormous positive impact. One of the most regretfully skipped banners in the JP community, because it was before our fest and we are unsure of Heavy's potential. Since Witch sets a bad example and Ninja is too OP.
King USB/SSB/LMR, Cinque USB/LMR, Rem USB/OSB/LMR, Ace BSB/LMR, and even Rem BSB.
11/14 relics that are still relevant in 6 months, half of which will last even longer.
A banner boosted to god level by the power of foresight.

--------------------------------------------------
3DS FC: 2809-9061-6615
JP FFRK (QT3rB): All utility except Runic and Astra.

User Info: SolitaireD

SolitaireD
5 months ago#8
Shapeshifter Banner Overview

Shapeshifter/Heavy Lance:
Zidane clone but Dragoon school instead of Thief.
Zidane's already mediocre, and having a worse condition makes this USB pathetic.
The only saving grace is that Nine's LMR gives Imperil Wind too, but remember that Cyclone Bolt is not a jump attack.

Clockwork Blades/Bolt Rapiers/Platinum Bangle:
That OSB condition...rofl
His flimsy USB is not here, LMR does not give him Dualcast.
Looking at that BSB will just rot our eyes. Ignore it and keep ourselves healthy.
LMR ain't bad, if your CM party has a spare slot for him to spam Spellblades.

Claymore:
Too bad her USB can't fast cast this, leaving you with her Trance LM2 to make good work of this.
Decision factor is Queen & her realm rather than the element.

Flamberge/Queen's Guise:
Despite an incoming 6* Lightning Spellblade, she has yet to emerge in JP.
Machinists, Claire, Bartz FSB/Sora/Celes USB, etc. Better choices in better banners.
Great poverty option though, and the LMR helps to ability spam.

Deuce's Akademeia Uniform/Feathered Cap:
Only medica in this event and DeNA placed it here in hopes people will pull in this banner. Did it work?
LMR allows Deuce a little breathing space to juggle her other SBs, if you already have them.

Regal Crown/Machina's Guise:
I personally think that these are still CM only.
Haven't met a situation where I will consider it optimal to use these SBs and sacrifice a DPS/better utility slot.
I would rather source for another way to boost damage, or even rely on Magicite passives than choosing these.

Javelin:
The only excuse Nine has to be in a Wind team is to provide Imperil.
So all SBs should be devoted to that.
No point in relying on him for damage, no point for this BSB to exist.

Gold Hairpin:
+10 MND.


Conclusion: A collector's banner. No standout relic at all, especially against that first banner.

--------------------------------------------------
3DS FC: 2809-9061-6615
JP FFRK (QT3rB): All utility except Runic and Astra.

User Info: KnightLordST

KnightLordST
5 months ago#9
Alright, I had Rem USB and ssb previously, would definetely not mind her OSB, lmr2 and finally bsb for Boundless Yiazmat!

As for King, I can see his potential.
Problem is I already have a fully stacked Kain + Farron. Not sure if a 5* magicite team setup can fit all 3 in a team.

And then Cinque for Quetzacotl of course.

User Info: raoxi

raoxi
5 months ago#10
I think I need to throw some pulls at this banner, foresight made this a god banner indeed.
  1. Boards
  2. Final Fantasy Record Keeper
  3. FFT-0 Outsiders & Shapeshifter Banners Relic Draw Topic

Report Message

Terms of Use Violations:

Etiquette Issues:

Notes (optional; required for "Other"):
Add user to Ignore List after reporting

Topic Sticky

You are not allowed to request a sticky.

Update Topic Flair

You are not allowed to update this topic's flair.

  • Topic Archived